Need help finding the volume of a Angle Food Cake pan using integration.

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The discussion revolves around finding the volume of an Angel Food Cake pan using integration, specifically addressing the challenge posed by the pan's design, which includes a circular hole in the center. The original poster provides measurements for both the outer pan and the inner hole, indicating a need for clarity on how to set up the integration process for a frustum of a cone.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster considers using integration to calculate the volume of the pan and the hole, expressing confusion about the setup. Some participants suggest using the formula for the volume of a frustum instead of integration. Another participant questions whether flipping the frustum to integrate along the x-axis would be a viable approach.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods for calculating the volume. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of the frustum formula and the setup of the coordinate system for integration, but no consensus has been reached on the preferred method.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of whether they are allowed to use the frustum formula or must rely solely on integration. The original poster's confusion about the integration setup indicates a need for further clarification on the mathematical concepts involved.

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For class I had to measure an angle food cake pan using integration. The pan itself had a circular hole in the middle of it. So I figured I would take find the volume of the Large pan and then subtract the volume of the Small circular hole in the middle.

As far as integration goes, I am kind of lost. I measured the pan and found the height to be 10cm, bottom radius to be 10.5cm and the top radius to be 14.25cm. The hole in the middle of the pan has a height of 10cm, bottom radius of 3cm and a top radius of 2cm. I figured I would use the integration of a frustum of a cone around the y-axis but I am having a big trouble setting it up.

Any help would be appreciated.
 
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I think you mean angel food cake. Angle food cakes can get stuck in the throat if the angles are too acute.:-p
 
hah yeah I meant Angel Food Cake*
 
alexf322 said:
For class I had to measure an angle food cake pan using integration. The pan itself had a circular hole in the middle of it. So I figured I would take find the volume of the Large pan and then subtract the volume of the Small circular hole in the middle.

As far as integration goes, I am kind of lost. I measured the pan and found the height to be 10cm, bottom radius to be 10.5cm and the top radius to be 14.25cm. The hole in the middle of the pan has a height of 10cm, bottom radius of 3cm and a top radius of 2cm. I figured I would use the integration of a frustum of a cone around the y-axis but I am having a big trouble setting it up.

Any help would be appreciated.
If you are allowed to use the "frustrum of a cone" formula, you don't need to integrate at all. Find the volume of the frustrum of a cone ignoring the hole, find the volume of the hole, and subtract.

If you cannot use the formula but must integrate, note that if we set up a coordinate system having the origin in the center of the pan, the positive y-axis up and the positive x-axis to the right with units in cm. In that coordinate system, one side of the pan, on the right, passes through the points (10.5, 0) and (14.25, 10). Find the equation of that line, y= ax+ b. Then the radius of a disk, at height y, is x= (y- b)/a. Find the area of such a disk and integrate that area, with respect to y, from y= 0 to y= 10. Do the same to find the volume of the hole, and subtract.
 
Also if I flipped the frustum over, so that the height of the frustum is laying on the x-axis, I can just integrate it over the x-axis right?
 

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