Need help interpretting OpAmp spec, supply voltage

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The op-amp in question can be powered with either a ±18V supply or a 36V single-ended supply, but it requires a mid-rail reference voltage for proper operation. The discussion highlights the importance of maintaining input and output voltages within specified limits, as the op-amp cannot operate effectively with ground as a signal reference in a single supply configuration. Users are advised to check the datasheet for input and output voltage specifications, which indicate that the inputs and outputs should remain at least 4V away from the supply rails. The original design proposal for measuring motor voltage with an ADC needs refinement to comply with these requirements. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the need for careful consideration of supply voltage and reference levels when designing circuits with op-amps.
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In the datasheet it says the voltage max is +/-18V.
Does this mean that the maximum on Vs+ is 18V, or that the maximum voltage between Vs+ and Vs- can be 18V, or 36V?

I want to power it with Vs+ at 36V and Vs- at 0 volts.The datasheet is here: http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/opa627.pdf
 
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DragonPetter said:
In the datasheet it says the voltage max is +/-18V.
Does this mean that the maximum on Vs+ is 18V, or that the maximum voltage between Vs+ and Vs- can be 18V, or 36V?

I want to power it with Vs+ at 36V and Vs- at 0 volts.


The datasheet is here: http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/opa627.pdf

Yes, it can be powered with a +18V and -18V supply, or your 36V single-ended power supply. How are you going to make your 18V mid-rail reference voltage?
 
berkeman said:
Yes, it can be powered with a +18V and -18V supply, or your 36V single-ended power supply. How are you going to make your 18V mid-rail reference voltage?

What do you mean by mid-rail reference voltage? I'm a little confused and worried now.

I attached a drawing of what I plan to do.
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I want to measure the voltage on a motor with an ADC in a microcontroller. The motor voltage ranges from 12V to 36V, and the ADC range is 3.3V to 0V. So I need to voltage divide the motor voltage before it goes to the ADC, but I only care about measuring 12V and up, so I use a zener to use my gain only from 10V to 36V to increase my resolution. I will use a more accurate zener than bzx84C family since the opamp currents might move around the zener knee, but I use it here just as the idea.

So I am hoping: Vout = 0.0091(Vmotor-10V)
 

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Also, I'm changing the 10k and 910 to 100k and 12.5k so that I don't unbias the zener and give the proper gain.
 
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DragonPetter said:
What do you mean by mid-rail reference voltage? I'm a little confused and worried now.

I attached a drawing of what I plan to do.


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I want to measure the voltage on a motor with an ADC in a microcontroller. The motor voltage ranges from 12V to 36V, and the ADC range is 3.3V to 0V. So I need to voltage divide the motor voltage before it goes to the ADC, but I only care about measuring 12V and up, so I use a zener to use my gain only from 10V to 36V to increase my resolution. I will use a more accurate zener than bzx84C family since the opamp currents might move around the zener knee, but I use it here just as the idea.

So I am hoping: Vout = 0.0091(Vmotor-10V)

Won't work. That opamp (as with many opamps) is designed to work with split supplies (or a single supply where the inputs and outputs are running mid-rail somehow, like with a mid-supply reference voltage).

Take a look at the input and output voltage specs in the table in the datasheet. With a +/-15V supply, the input and outputs can go to about +/-11V. That means that you need to keep the inputs and outputs at least 4V or so away from the rails. You cannot run this part (or many opamps) off of a single supply and use ground as a signal reference as shown in your schematic.
 
berkeman said:
Won't work. That opamp (as with many opamps) is designed to work with split supplies (or a single supply where the inputs and outputs are running mid-rail somehow, like with a mid-supply reference voltage).

Take a look at the input and output voltage specs in the table in the datasheet. With a +/-15V supply, the input and outputs can go to about +/-11V. That means that you need to keep the inputs and outputs at least 4V or so away from the rails. You cannot run this part (or many opamps) off of a single supply and use ground as a signal reference as shown in your schematic.

Ok, thank you very much Berkeman, Iæm glad I asked. Back to the drawing boards for me, but I will just try to refine this attempt. I'll show my new idea after some more work.
 
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