Need help w/ Fibonnaci and Golden Ratio proof

In summary, the conversation revolves around the use of the Fibonacci sequence and its relation to the Golden ratio, denoted as Phi. The formula for the nth Fibonacci number is discussed, along with the possibility of using it to simplify the given equation. The limitations of the formula for the first few Fibonacci numbers and its behavior as n approaches infinity are also mentioned.
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Let F_n and F_n+1 be successive Fibonnaci numbers. Then |(F_n+1)/(F_n) - Phi | < 1/(2(F_n)^2)

Where Phi is the Golden ratio.
 
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Just use the formula for nth fibonacci number.
 
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It's not that simple. I tried fracturing it many times but every time it just seem to leave to the same result.
 
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Remember that the nth Fibonacci number is:

[tex]F_n = \frac {1} {\sqrt{5}} \left [ \phi^n - \left ( \frac {-1}{\phi}\right)^n\right][/tex]

and you can multiply Fn2 through your equation:

[tex] \left | F_{n+1} \times F_{n} - \phi \times F^2_n \right | < \frac {1}{2} [/tex]

What happens when you set the whole equation to terms of [itex]\phi[/itex]?

Note that for the first 3 Fibonacci numbers: 0,1,1 the formula doesn't work. Additionally, as we get deeper into the Fibonacci sequence, [itex]F_n[/itex] as [itex]n \to \infty[/itex], what does [itex] \left | F_{n+1} \times F_{n} - \phi \times F^2_n \right |[/itex] approach? hint: you might see the value first for a specific very low n
 
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Sure, I would be happy to help with your proof for the Fibonacci and Golden Ratio relationship. First, let's define the Fibonacci sequence as a series of numbers where each number is the sum of the two previous numbers, starting with 0 and 1. So, the first few numbers in the sequence would be 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, and so on.

Now, let's look at the relationship between two successive Fibonacci numbers, F_n and F_n+1. We can express this relationship as:

F_n+1 = F_n + F_n-1

We can also express the Golden Ratio, Phi, as:

Phi = (1 + √5)/2

Now, let's substitute F_n+1 and F_n into the first equation:

F_n+1 = F_n + F_n-1

F_n+1/F_n = (F_n + F_n-1)/F_n

F_n+1/F_n = 1 + F_n-1/F_n

Now, we can use the definition of the Golden Ratio, Phi, and substitute it into the equation:

F_n+1/F_n = 1 + F_n-1/F_n

F_n+1/F_n = 1 + Phi/F_n

Next, we can rearrange the equation to isolate the term for Phi:

F_n+1/F_n - 1 = Phi/F_n

Finally, we can take the absolute value of both sides of the equation to get:

|F_n+1/F_n - 1| = |Phi/F_n|

Now, we can use the fact that F_n is always a positive integer to simplify the equation further:

|F_n+1/F_n - 1| = |Phi/F_n|

|F_n+1/F_n - 1| = |Phi|/F_n

Since Phi is a constant value, we can substitute it with its numerical value:

|F_n+1/F_n - 1| = 0.618/F_n

Now, let's look at the right side of the equation, where we have 1/(2(F_n)^2). We can rewrite this as:

1/(2(F_n)^2) = 0.5/F_n^2

So, now we have the following equation:

|F_n+1/F_n -
 

1. What is the Fibonacci sequence?

The Fibonacci sequence is a series of numbers where each number is the sum of the two preceding numbers, starting from 0 and 1. The sequence is 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, and so on.

2. What is the Golden Ratio?

The Golden Ratio is a mathematical ratio represented by the number 1.6180339887. It is found by dividing a line into two parts so that the longer part divided by the smaller part is equal to the whole length divided by the longer part. This ratio has been studied for its aesthetic and mathematical properties for centuries.

3. How are the Fibonacci sequence and Golden Ratio related?

The ratio of any two consecutive numbers in the Fibonacci sequence approaches the Golden Ratio as the sequence continues. This means that as the numbers in the sequence get larger, the ratio between them gets closer and closer to 1.6180339887.

4. Can the Golden Ratio be proven using the Fibonacci sequence?

No, the Golden Ratio cannot be proven using the Fibonacci sequence. The sequence can only approximate the Golden Ratio, but it is not a proof in itself. The Golden Ratio can be proven using various mathematical equations and geometric constructions.

5. What is the importance of the Golden Ratio?

The Golden Ratio has been studied for its aesthetic and mathematical properties. It appears in nature, art, and architecture, and is believed to be aesthetically pleasing to the human eye. It also has various mathematical applications, such as in geometry and number theory.

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