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The discussion revolves around the integral of the function 5/(3+4sinx). Participants are exploring various methods for solving this integral, including the substitution method using t=tan(x/2).

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  • Participants discuss the substitution method and express uncertainty about the correctness of their transformations. There are mentions of using long division and partial fractions, as well as confusion regarding the setup of the integral.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and questioning the validity of their approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding methods to simplify the integral, but no consensus has been reached on the correct path forward.

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There is mention of a specific method from a book that participants are trying to apply, but they note that the current problem does not align perfectly with examples provided in the book. Additionally, one participant references using Mathematica for assistance, which may introduce further complexity to the discussion.

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I am trying to solve this integral. Any help would be great.

I 5/(3+4sinx)

I tried suddinb t=tan x/2 but it gives me a result of:

=5 I (1+x^2)/(3+11x)

I am not sure what to do with this or if this is the right emthod any help would be great.

Thanks

Using I for integration sign.
 
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Hi CaspianTiger! :smile:

(have an integral: ∫ :wink:)
CaspianTiger said:
∫ 5/(3+4sinx)

I tried suddinb t=tan x/2 but it gives me a result of:

=5 ∫ (1+x^2)/(3+11x)

I am not sure what to do with this or if this is the right emthod any help would be great.

Are you sure (1+t2)dt/(3+11t) is right?

Anyway, then you use long division and/or partial fractions. :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi CaspianTiger! :smile:

(have an integral: ∫ :wink:)


Are you sure (1+t2)dt/(3+11t) is right?

Anyway, then you use long division and/or partial fractions. :wink:


Hmm... I am not sure if this is right. I am just following a method from a book. But it doesn't have an example like this one.

Usually with these problems from the book, you have to use ∫1/x^2+or-a^2

To get the result (1+t2)dt/(3+11t)

I made 3+4sinx = 3+ 8t/(1+t^2)

Then i add them and put them back into the integral. Usually i have a t^2 in the denominator. SO i am confused by this one. The wolf integrator has an insane answer though.
 
CaspianTiger said:
I made 3+4sinx = 3+ 8t/(1+t^2)

(just got up :zzz:)

ah, but 3+ 8t/(1+t2) = (3+ 8t + 3t2)/(1+t2) :wink:
 
Greetings,
I'm not so good in integrations, but I tryed to solve it with Mathematica, and I got this answer

(5 I (121 x^2-66 x+260 log(11 x+3)-27))/2662

Hopefully it can help.
 
tiny-tim said:
(just got up :zzz:)

ah, but 3+ 8t/(1+t2) = (3+ 8t + 3t2)/(1+t2) :wink:


What a stupid mistake.

Thanks.
 

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