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The discussion revolves around solving a projectile motion problem involving a basketball player's shot. The player is 5 meters from the backboard, with the ball shot at a 30-degree angle and an initial height of 2 meters, aiming for a hoop at 3.048 meters. The calculations for the initial velocity (Vo) are being verified, with initial attempts yielding values of 5.44 m/s and later corrections suggesting 9.37 m/s after addressing errors in the equations and time variable. Participants emphasize the importance of correctly incorporating time (t) in the equations and clarifying the initial and final heights in the calculations. The conversation highlights the collaborative effort to ensure accuracy in solving the dynamics problem.
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First time poster, site looks very informative so I thought I would make a post. This is for Mechanics class and now covering Dynamics. This is my take home problem.

A basket ball player shoots when she is 5 m from the backboard. Knowing that the ball has an intial velocity Vo at an angle of 30⁰ with the horizontal, determine the value of Vo when d is equal to (a) 228 mm, (b) 420 mm.


Homework Statement


given info:
x: player is 5M from back board
y: initial height of ball 2m from floor, hoop is 3.048m from floor
angle: 30⁰
d: this is the distance from the back board or offset

Homework Equations


x = Vo cos(30)*t
y = Yo + Vo*sin(30)t - 1/2gt^2

The Attempt at a Solution


x = 5m - .288m = 4.772m
4.772m = Vo*cos(30)*t
Vo = 4.772/cos(30)

y = 2m + (4.772m/cos(30))*sin(30)t - 1/2(9.81)t^2
t = .987s

Vo = 4.772/cos(30)*(.987s)
= 5.44m/s

Using same method
b = 5.13m/s
Found a picture for the problem on the net for better clarity:
http://books.google.com/books?id=A_...esnum=3&ved=0CBEQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=&f=false"
 
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So its been several days now and no response. Perhaps I would have had better luck under the Physics section? If I did not explain the problem clearly I posted a link to the problem which includes a picture. I am pretty confident my work is correct but would feel a lot better if someone else can confirm this work accurate.
 
Equations look good, but check your math and you have a typo , should be Vo = 4.772/cos(30)*t (you left out the 't'). What value are you using for y?
 
I am solving for 't', so y = 0. But I use 2m for my Y0.
Here is a little more detail in my steps:
x = Vo cos(30)*t
4.772m = Vo*cos(30)*t
Vo = 4.772/cos(30)t
y = Yo + Vo*sin(30)t - 1/2gt^2
0 = 2m + (4.772m/cos(30))*sin(30)t - 1/2(9.81)t^2
(4.9)t^2 = (4.775)t^1/2
t = .987s
Vo = 4.772/cos(30)*(.987s)
= 5.44m/s
 
I am not sure about my value for 't'. I take the square root of both sides and solve for t, I get .987 when 4.9 over 4.775 or 1.013 when 4.775 over 4.9.
 
LightMech said:
I am solving for 't', so y = 0.
y is not 0 when the ball hits the basket.
But I use 2m for my Y0.
Here is a little more detail in my steps:
x = Vo cos(30)*t
4.772m = Vo*cos(30)*t
Vo = 4.772/cos(30)t
y = Yo + Vo*sin(30)t - 1/2gt^2
0 use correct value for y[/color]= 2m + (4.772m/cos(30)t[/color])*sin(30)t - 1/2(9.81)t^2
you keep making the same error by omitting the t [/color]I've added in red.
 
Geeze I can't believe I mist that. Okay so:
Yo = 2m
Yf = 3.048m
3.048m = 2m + (4.772m/cos(30)t)*sin(30)t - 1/2(9.81)t^2
t = 1.7s
Vo = 4.772/cos(30)*(1.7s)
V0 = 9.37m/s
 
LightMech said:
Geeze I can't believe I mist that. Okay so:
Yo = 2m
Yf = 3.048m
3.048m = 2m + (4.772m/cos(30)t)*sin(30)t - 1/2(9.81)t^2
t = 1.7s
Vo = 4.772/cos(30)*(1.7s)
V0 = 9.37m/s
you seem to be having trouble with your math

1.048 = (4.772/cos30)sin30 -1/2(9.81)t^2

solve for t = ?
 
Ok, this is what I am doing:
4.9t^2= -1.048+(4.772/cos30)sin30 t's cancel on right side?
taking square toot to both sides and solving for t:
2.21t= 1.306
t=.59s

I am moving t^2 to the left side, I don't know why I am now getting different valudes for t.
 
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LightMech said:
Ok, this is what I am doing:
4.9t^2= -1.048+(4.772/cos30)sin30 t's cancel on right side?
taking square toot to both sides and solving for t:
2.21t= 1.306
t=.59s

I am moving t^2 to the left side, I don't know why I am now getting different valudes for t.
Yes, that looks better. I'm not sure what you were doing before.
 
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Thank you Phantom, I wasnt taking care of my 't' because I had it written incorrectly on a different set of notes. If I had took the time to think about it, I probably would have corrected it.
 
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