Is ##9\sqrt[3]{-3}## Equivalent to ##-9\sqrt[3]{3}##?

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The discussion centers on whether ##9\sqrt[3]{-3}## is equivalent to ##-9\sqrt[3]{3}##. It is clarified that when taking the cube root of a negative number, the result is negative, allowing the negative sign to be moved outside the radical as a simplification. A reference example is provided, showing that ##\sqrt[3]{-8} = -2##, confirming the principle. The usual convention is to express the negative sign outside the radical for clarity. Thus, the two expressions are indeed equivalent.
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Homework Statement
Find ##\sqrt[3]{-2187}##
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I calculated this to be ##9\sqrt[3]{-3}##, but the answer is given as ##-9\sqrt[3]{3}##. Are these two quantities equal? If so, what is the usual convention for placement of the negative sign? Thanks.
 
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When you take a cube root or other odd root of -1, you get -1 (at least until you get to the chapter on complex numbers). So, in those cases, moving the sign outside the radical is considered a simplification.
 
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Just FYI, I changed the title from square root to cube root. :wink:
 
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Homework Statement: Find ##\sqrt[3]{-2187}##
Relevant Equations: None

I calculated this to be ##9\sqrt[3]{-3}##, but the answer is given as ##-9\sqrt[3]{3}##. Are these two quantities equal? If so, what is the usual convention for placement of the negative sign? Thanks.
You could look at a graph of the cube root function:

https://www.cuemath.com/calculus/cube-root-function/

And you'll see that the cube root of a negative number is just a regular negative number.
 
A simpler example is this: ##\sqrt[3]{-8} = -2##. As a check, cube the result on the right side.
##(-2)^3 = (-2)(-2)(-2) = -8##
 
I tried to combine those 2 formulas but it didn't work. I tried using another case where there are 2 red balls and 2 blue balls only so when combining the formula I got ##\frac{(4-1)!}{2!2!}=\frac{3}{2}## which does not make sense. Is there any formula to calculate cyclic permutation of identical objects or I have to do it by listing all the possibilities? Thanks
Since ##px^9+q## is the factor, then ##x^9=\frac{-q}{p}## will be one of the roots. Let ##f(x)=27x^{18}+bx^9+70##, then: $$27\left(\frac{-q}{p}\right)^2+b\left(\frac{-q}{p}\right)+70=0$$ $$b=27 \frac{q}{p}+70 \frac{p}{q}$$ $$b=\frac{27q^2+70p^2}{pq}$$ From this expression, it looks like there is no greatest value of ##b## because increasing the value of ##p## and ##q## will also increase the value of ##b##. How to find the greatest value of ##b##? Thanks
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