Nested radicals and its convergence

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The discussion centers on the convergence of the nested radical sequence defined by \( a_{n + 1} = \sqrt{1 + a_n} \). Participants confirm that the limit of the sequence can be found by solving the equation \( a^2 = 1 + a \), leading to the quadratic solution \( a = \frac{1}{2}(\sqrt{5} + 1) \). The negative root is dismissed as invalid due to the nature of the sequence involving only positive numbers. The use of Maple for solving the quadratic equation is noted, affirming the correctness of the limit.

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Homework Statement



This is supposed to be really easy, but I don't think my answer is good

Consider this

[tex]\sqrt{1 + \sqrt{1 + \sqrt{1 + ...}}}[/tex]

I was hinted that [tex]a_{n + 1} = \sqrt{1 + a_n}[/tex] for all n ≥ 0 and I am supposed to show that the sequence convergees



The Attempt at a Solution



Am I suppose to use [tex]a_{n +1}[/tex] converges or [tex]a_n[/tex]?

Since the nested radicals go on to infinity, wouldn't it be better to write it as

[tex]a_n = \sqrt{1 + a_n}[/tex]

So that

[tex]a^2 _n = 1 + a_n[/tex]

We get a quadratic and solve (on Maple) we get

[tex]\frac{1}{2}(\sqrt(5) + 1)[/tex]

I rejected negative root because there is no way a negative root can occur in this sequence (we are just adding positive numbers and rooting it (I hope that's a word))
 
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flyingpig said:

Homework Statement



This is supposed to be really easy, but I don't think my answer is good

Consider this

[tex]\sqrt{1 + \sqrt{1 + \sqrt{1 + ...}}}[/tex]

I was hinted that [tex]a_{n + 1} = \sqrt{1 + a_n}[/tex] for all n ≥ 0 and I am supposed to show that the sequence convergees



The Attempt at a Solution



Am I suppose to use [tex]a_{n +1}[/tex] converges or [tex]a_n[/tex]?
Those are just different numberings for the same sequence if one converge the other converges to the same thing.

Since the nested radicals go on to infinity, wouldn't it be better to write it as

[tex]a_n = \sqrt{1 + a_n}[/tex]
No, that's not true for any finite value of n. What is true is that if [itex]\lim_{n\to\infty} a_n= a[/itex], then [itex]\lim_{n\to\infty}\sqrt{1+ a_n}= \sqrt{1+ \lim_{n\to\infty} a_n}= \sqrt{1+ a}[/itex].

So that

[tex]a^2 _n = 1 + a_n[/tex]
Okay, except that that it should be the value of the limit, a, not [itex]a_n[/itex]

We get a quadratic and solve (on Maple) we get

[tex]\frac{1}{2}(\sqrt(5) + 1)[/tex]

I rejected negative root because there is no way a negative root can occur in this sequence (we are just adding positive numbers and rooting it (I hope that's a word))
Aw, c'mon! You use Maple to solve a quadratic equation? (Yes, that is the correct limit.)
 

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