Net Torque Calculation for a Square with Equal Forces Acting on Opposite Sides

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The discussion revolves around calculating the net torque on a square with equal forces acting on opposite sides, where the pivot is at the bottom left corner. The initial calculation suggests a torque of 5 Nm based on the applied forces, but the provided answer in the textbook is 4.3 Nm, leading to confusion. Participants consider the possibility of a missing mass in the problem, which could affect the torque calculation due to gravitational forces acting on the center of mass. The consensus leans towards the idea that the discrepancy is likely a typo in the textbook solutions. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of understanding torque calculations and the potential impact of unmentioned variables.
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Homework Statement



The question asks, What is the net torque about the axle? Pictured is a square of sidelength .1 m, the pivot is placed on the bottom left corner. A force vector of magnitude 50 N points parallel to the left side and toward the pivot. Another equal force vector points north along the right side of the square. At the risk of being chastised I have included a picture.

Homework Equations


Torque = FxR or force(moment arm)
A force vector pointing toward the pivot exerts no torque.

The Attempt at a Solution


Torque = (50N)(.1 m)= 5Nm

Inexplicably (to me), the answer is 4.3 Nm.
 

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How do you know that anwer ?
 
Looks like an incorrect answer was provided, or perhaps the square has a mass that's not mentioned in the problem statement?
 
4.3 Nm is the answer provided in the back of the book. There doesn't appear to be anything about the mass of the square, but even if there was, wouldn't the answer remain 5.0 Nm? I suspected the solution was wrong but I thought I'd post it to make sure I wasn't missing something.
 
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4.3 Nm is the answer provided in the back of the book. There doesn't appear to be anything about the mass of the square, but even if there was, wouldn't the answer remain 5.0 Nm? I suspected the solution was wrong but I thought I'd post it to make sure I wasn't missing something.

A gravitational force would act vertically through the center of mass, which is not aligned with the point of rotation, but a typo in the solutions is the more likely scenario.
 
Oh yeah, that would make sense. I suppose one could work backward to find the mass of the square give the net torque. Would it be accurate to say if the torque from gravity is .7 Nm, then .7 = (mg)(.05) => m = 14/g?
Seems an odd number. Oh well, I think i's fair to chat this up to a typo in the solutions as well. Thanks for your time.
 
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