Neutron stars seem an oddity to me

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Neutron stars are formed through stellar collapse when the remnants of a supernova have sufficient gravity to overcome electron and proton degeneracy pressure, but not enough to surpass neutron degeneracy pressure, preventing them from becoming black holes. The discussion highlights the peculiar nature of neutron stars, suggesting they may distort spacetime more than black holes due to their mass-to-volume ratio. Additionally, it is proposed that neutron-striction forces, resulting from coherent elastic neutron-neutron scattering, could contribute to the stability of neutron stars alongside gravity. This indicates that gravity may not be the sole binding force in neutron stars. Overall, the complexities of neutron star formation and stability challenge conventional understandings of gravitational forces.
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neutron stars seem an oddity to me, they seem to have
to much mass to size to be held together purly by gravity
do neutrons have mutual attraction? or is space very very
distorted by them?
 
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They ARE held togethr by garvity, you can never have enough mass to volume to be held together by gravity.
 
They ARE held togethr by garvity, you can never have enough mass to volume to be held together by gravity.
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so how does a neutron star become a neutron star, it seems that
size for size the neutron star should distort space time in the most
extreem way, probabaly more tightly than a black hole.
 
wolram said:
They ARE held togethr by garvity, you can never have enough mass to volume to be held together by gravity.
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so how does a neutron star become a neutron star, it seems that
size for size the neutron star should distort space time in the most
extreem way, probabaly more tightly than a black hole.

A neutron star becomes a neutron star via stellar collapse when the stellar remnants have enough gravity to overcome the degenarcy pressure between electrons and protons after the star goes supernova. What stops it becoming a black hole is that it doesn't have enough gravity to overcome the degenracy pressure between neutrons.
 
I had a look on google as i wasn't sure about the explanations
given, and found this,

http://xxx.arxiv.cornell.edu/abs/astro-ph/0311471

Neutron stars without gravity
Authors: V.K.Ignatovich

It is demonstrated that not only gravity, but also neutron-striction forces due to optical potential created by coherent elastic neutron-neutron scattering can hold a neutron star together. The latter forces can be stronger than gravitational ones. The effect of these forces on mass, radius and composition of the neutron star is estimated.

this maybe speculative but it does show that gravity may not be the
only contributer to the binding force of a neutron star.
 
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jcsd said:
What stops it becoming a black hole is that it doesn't have enough gravity to overcome the degenracy pressure between neutrons.
+ there's is often rotation..
 
jcsd said:
A neutron star becomes a neutron star via stellar collapse when the stellar remnants have enough gravity to overcome the degenarcy pressure between electrons and protons after the star goes supernova. What stops it becoming a black hole is that it doesn't have enough gravity to overcome the degenracy pressure between neutrons.
At this level, it would be degeneracy pressure of the strong nuclear force; binding force between the quarks that make up the neutrons.
 
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