Newton's Law of Gravitation: Balancing Centrifugal Force & Internal Pressure

In summary: The only force is the normal force from the surface, and the centrifugal force is entirely fictitious.In summary, there is no centrifugal force in either Newtonian mechanics or General Relativity. In Newtonian mechanics, gravity provides a centripetal force for objects in orbit, while in General Relativity, objects follow natural paths through curved spacetime known as geodesics. In both cases, there is no need for a centrifugal force.
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How is the centrifugal force in an orbiting planet or star, balanced if according to Einstein there is not such gravity force and is only space time curvature. Also, how come in order to determine internal pressure of a planet or star, the force acting near the center is calculated using the Newton formula F = G mM/Rsquared.
Then was Newton wrong? If so why this formula still aplly?
 
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Both questions are doubts about the amount of curvature giving the same effect as gravity -- not about whether there can be curvature that changes the definition of a "straight path". The fact is that the amount of curvature, both near and at a distance of R, and the resulting effect do match the effect of gravity. If they did not match, then there really would be a problem.

PS. Probably a better term than "straight path" would have been "unaccelerated path in space-time". The completely correct term is "geodesic path".
 
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Osvaldo said:
How is the centrifugal force in an orbiting planet or star, balanced if according to Einstein there is not such gravity force and is only space time curvature?

In Newton's gravity, there is no centrifugal force. Instead, gravity provides a centripetal force that keeps an object in orbit. There is only one (inertial) force in this case.

In General Relativity, there are no forces on an orbiting body. Instead, its path through spacetime is a natural one (technically called a geodesic).

To calculate the path of an object in curved spacetime, you can use the Lagrangian principle. For the spacetime round a spherically symmetric star like the Sun, this gives a very close approximation to Newton's law of gravity.
 
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Osvaldo said:
How is the centrifugal force in an orbiting planet or star, balanced if according to Einstein there is not such gravity force and is only space time curvature.
There is no such thing as the centrifugal force either. (In exactly the same sense)
 
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In inertial frames in Newtonian physics, things move on straight lines if no unbalanced forces act on them. So there must be an unbalanced force if an object is not moving in a straight line - and that force is gravity.

General relativity basically modifies Newton's first law. Things experiencing no force don't move in straight lines. They follow paths called "geodesics". Far from any source of gravity, these are (arbitrarily close to) straight lines. Close to sources of gravity they (or their spatial projections) are curves. So no centripetal force is necessary because the orbital path is inertial.
 
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Osvaldo said:
How is the centrifugal force in an orbiting planet or star, balanced if according to Einstein there is not such gravity force and is only space time curvature.
In Newtonian mechanics the inertial centrifugal force is used in rotating frames of reference. In General Relativity you instead use a different space-time metric for the rotating frame, and there is neither a force of gravity, nor a centrifugal force.
 

1. What is Newton's Law of Gravitation?

Newton's Law of Gravitation states that every particle in the universe attracts every other particle with a force that is directly proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them.

2. How does Newton's Law of Gravitation explain the balancing of centrifugal force and internal pressure?

According to Newton's Law of Gravitation, the gravitational force between two objects is inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them. This means that as the distance between two objects increases, the force of gravity decreases. In the case of balancing centrifugal force and internal pressure, the force of gravity between the particles of the object and the center of rotation decreases as the distance between them increases, allowing for the centrifugal force and internal pressure to balance out.

3. How does the mass of an object affect the balancing of centrifugal force and internal pressure?

The mass of an object does not directly affect the balancing of centrifugal force and internal pressure. However, the greater the mass of an object, the greater the gravitational force between its particles and the center of rotation. This can result in a stronger balancing of the centrifugal force and internal pressure.

4. Can Newton's Law of Gravitation be applied to objects other than planets and stars?

Yes, Newton's Law of Gravitation can be applied to any two objects in the universe that have mass. It is a universal law and applies to all objects, regardless of their size or composition.

5. How does the distance between two objects affect the balancing of centrifugal force and internal pressure?

The distance between two objects plays a crucial role in the balancing of centrifugal force and internal pressure. As the distance between two objects increases, the force of gravity between them decreases, allowing for the centrifugal force and internal pressure to balance out. This is why objects that are closer to the center of rotation experience a stronger balancing effect compared to objects that are farther away.

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