Newton's law to find acceleration

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A block on a 30-degree incline is pushed uphill by a force equal to twice its weight, while experiencing kinetic friction with a coefficient of 0.4. The user initially calculated the acceleration to be 8.134 m/s² but questioned the accuracy of this value, recalling a quiz answer closer to 7.8 m/s². After reviewing their work, they identified a sign error in their calculations related to the force's direction, which contributed to the discrepancy. The user acknowledged that assuming the force was horizontal instead of aligned with the slope may have led to incorrect conclusions. Ultimately, the correct approach should yield a lower acceleration, aligning more closely with the professor's answer.
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Homework Statement



A block of mass m lies on a surface thirty degrees above the horizontal. A force with a magnitude equal to twice the weight of the block pushes it uphill. If the coefficient of kinetic friction is 0.4, find the acceleration of the block.

Homework Equations



Newton's laws of motion

The Attempt at a Solution



Drew free body diagram:

http://i.imgur.com/dA7MxvM.png

If I choose my coordinate axes so that the x-axis is parallel to the ramp,

ƩFy = 0
ƩFx = ma

First the x-components:

ƩFx = 2wsin60 - wsin60 - fk = ma

I know that fk = μn, I know μ but don't know n.

To find n from the y-components:

ƩFy = n - 2wcos60 - wcos30 = 0
n = w(2cos60 + cos30)

Substituting n into the x-component equation:

ƩFx = 2wsin60 - wsin60 - μ(w(2cos60 + cos30)) = ma

ƩFx = w(2sin60 - sin60 - 0.5cos60 + 0.25cos30) = ma

0.83w = ma

Weight is the product of mass and acceleration due to gravity

(0.83)mg = ma
0.83g = a

a = 8.134 m/s^2

This question was on a small quiz I took today and although I don't have the answer with me, I remember seeing that the answer was near 7.8 and not 8.134. Where am I going wrong with this?
 
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you seem to be assuming the 2w force is horizontal. It is not entirely clear, but I would assume it's pointing up the slope.
 
When I wrote the question in the original post I was just writing what I could recall from memory.

Now that it's been a while, I'm not so sure whether or not the real question stated a reason for believing the force was horizontal or in the direction of the slanted field... It's possible that I just goofed and assumed it was horizontal for some reason or I just can't remember but it did state it, but in any case, wouldn't the real answer have to be higher than the acceleration I provided in my post?

I guess a better question would be if my line of reasoning is correct (assuming the force is horizontal). While I don't remember the question word-for-word, I do know that it was the same reasoning I used in the quiz.

EDIT:

Nevermind, checked my work again and there was a sign error anyways. It might have been that I just goofed and assumed the force was horizontal for some strange reason...

The cos(30) is supposed to be negative instead of positive which leads to a much lower acceleration. The higher acceleration in my prof's answer might be due to what you said.
 
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