Noble gases don't react chemically with other substances

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The discussion centers on the reactivity of noble gases, specifically addressing the statement that "noble gases don't react chemically with other substances." While this statement is generally accurate, it is not entirely correct, as noble gases can form compounds under extraordinary conditions. Compounds such as xenon difluoride (XeF2) are commercially available and used in applications like microelectronics, indicating that some noble gas compounds are stable enough for practical use. The conversation highlights a misconception in educational settings, where the inertness of noble gases is often overstated. It is acknowledged that noble gases are typically unreactive but can engage in reactions under specific circumstances, challenging the notion that they are completely non-reactive. The discussion also references historical context, noting that the understanding of noble gas chemistry has evolved over the past several decades.
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I would like to ask about a question concerning noble gases. "Nobel gases don't react chemically with other substances."

Is this statement about nobles gases completely correct or partially correct?

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Ordinarily correct. In extraordinary conditions, compounds can be made, maybe not very stable.
 
symbolipoint said:
Ordinarily correct. In extraordinary conditions, compounds can be made, maybe not very stable.
Compounds like XeF2 are available commercially and are used as an etching agent in microelectronics. So I wouldn't regard noble gas compounds as a lab curiosity.
 
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symbolipoint said:
Ordinarily correct. In extraordinary conditions, compounds can be made, maybe not very stable.

If we limit the reaction with other substances, does this not mean that they react with each other, and which would be wrong?

Thank you.
 
DrDu said:
Compounds like XeF2 are available commercially and are used as an etching agent in microelectronics. So I wouldn't regard noble gas compounds as a lab curiosity.

So being commercially available, does that mean it is stable, or stable enough for some known storage period?

mech-eng said:
If we limit the reaction with other substances, does this not mean that they react with each other, and which would be wrong?

Thank you.
See what Dr.Du said.
 
mech-eng said:
If we limit the reaction with other substances, does this not mean that they react with each other, and which would be wrong?

Thank you.
I think that even compounds with Xe-Xe covalent bonds have been synthesised.
 
mech-eng said:
I would like to ask about a question concerning noble gases. "Nobel gases don't react chemically with other substances."

Why is this still being taught? It hasn't been true for 55 years. You can buy XeF2 out of a catalog - I just confirmed if I gave them my credit card number, I could have some on my desk by tomorrow. It's only about 3x as expensive as gold, by weight.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
Why is this still being taught? It hasn't been true for 55 years. You can buy XeF2 out of a catalog - I just confirmed if I gave them my credit card number, I could have some on my desk by tomorrow. It's only about 3x as expensive as gold, by weight.
I generally see it taught as "noble gases are inert under most conditions and only react in special circumstances," or some such qualification. But saying they're unreactive isn't a terrible approximation. Xenon's first ionization energy is comparable to that of O2, which means that oxidizing xenon is about as difficult as oxidizing oxygen. (In fact this was exactly how Neil Bartlett reasoned that xenon might be reactive--his experience with oxygenyl compounds of platinum hexafluoride. (sub-gripe: it's completely beyond me why he never won a Nobel Prize)).
 
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