Non-Calc based Physics before Calc based Physics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the potential benefits of taking a Non-Calculus based Physics course before enrolling in a Calculus-based Physics course. Participants explore whether this approach could provide a useful introduction to physics concepts in preparation for more advanced study.

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  • Exploratory, Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, Eddie, questions the benefits of taking Non-Calc based Physics as a preparatory step before Calc-based Physics, suggesting it might provide a superficial understanding of topics.
  • Another participant advises checking if credit can be obtained for both courses, indicating that many institutions do not allow this.
  • A different participant clarifies that they can receive credit for both courses, but the Non-Calc course would only count as an elective and not for core degree requirements.
  • One participant expresses doubt about the value of taking the Non-Calc course, recalling their own experience where learning physics was easier with calculus, as it provided clearer understanding through proper derivations.
  • Another suggestion is made to use the elective credits for a different general education course instead of the Non-Calc Physics course.
  • One participant strongly recommends against taking the Non-Calc course, suggesting that reading a basic physics text or the course textbook could be a more efficient way to familiarize oneself with the concepts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the value of taking Non-Calc based Physics before Calc-based Physics. Some believe it may not be worth the time and effort, while others see potential benefits in familiarizing oneself with the material.

Contextual Notes

There are varying institutional policies regarding credit for Non-Calc and Calc-based Physics courses, which may influence individual decisions. The discussion reflects personal experiences and preferences, which may not apply universally.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering their course options in physics, particularly those weighing the merits of Non-Calculus versus Calculus-based physics courses.

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Is there any benefits to taking Non-Calc based Physics before Calc based physics??

Although it's not required I was thinking maybe I'll be able to obtain some superficial look at some topics in physics in preparation for the real stuff, since for me I'd have to wait another semester to take the calc-based since I'm taking Calc I this coming spring.

any advice is greatly appreciated

-Eddie
 
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Most places do not let you get credit for both- you should check to make sure of that before you decide whether or not to do that.
 
I can receive credit for both, it's just that the non-calc would not count for my degree's core courses, only as an elective.
 
i don't really know if it would be worth it. I was discouraged from it when I was an undergrad. And in retrospective, learning intro physics was a lot EASIER in my mind with calculus. There are a lot of things that just make a little more sense when you actually get to see the proper derivation rather than just been told to take it at face value. You could always just sit in on the lectures with the Professor's ok.
 
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Don't waste your time and money. If you want an overview, grab the text for the course and skim through it. Or any other basic physics text.
 

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