Non-Central Forces in N-body Problems?

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The discussion centers on the behavior of forces in N-body systems, specifically whether the net force on each body in such systems points to the center of mass (COM) of the entire system. The scope includes theoretical considerations and counterexamples related to classical mechanics.

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  • One participant asserts that in a 2-body system without external forces, the forces on each body point to the center of mass.
  • Another participant disagrees with the assertion, stating that it does not hold for general N-body problems.
  • A request for classical counterexamples is made to support the disagreement.
  • A subsequent reply challenges the initial assertion by stating that it is not universally true even for all 2-body systems, citing examples involving equal charges and gravitational interactions among three equal masses.

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Participants do not agree on whether the net force on each body in N-body systems points to the center of mass, with multiple competing views presented.

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For a 2-body system that is not under the influence of an external force, the forces on each body (assumed to be point particles) always point to the center of mass the 2-body system.

Does this still hold for general N-body problems, where N>2? Specifically, does the net force on each body point to the center of mass of the N-body system?
 
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Thanks A.T. - is there a classical counterexample?
 
0pt618 said:
Thanks A.T. - is there a classical counterexample?
As posed, your assertion isn`t even true for all 2 particle systems. Two equal charges can have net forces away from the common COM, not towards it. For gravity consider 3 equal masses, two of which are very close together, the thrid one very far away.
 

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