Non-constant acceleration, solving for velocity

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The discussion focuses on solving for the velocity of a particle with non-constant acceleration defined as a = c*t. The user successfully derives velocity in terms of time but struggles to express it solely in terms of position. Key points include the need for initial conditions and the complexity of deriving position as a function of time, which complicates the transition to velocity as a function of position. Suggestions involve integrating acceleration and manipulating the resulting equations to isolate variables. The overall challenge lies in the intricate relationship between time, position, and velocity under non-constant acceleration.
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Hello!

I am trying to solve for the velocity in terms of position of a particle moving with non-constant acceleration.
a=c*t (where c is a constant)

I can easily solve for velocity in terms of t.
dv/dt=a
dv/dt=c*t
I differentiate and get v=1/2*c*t^2+v0 (where v(0)=v0)

However I am not sure how to solve for velocity in terms of only position. I would know how to do this if acceleration was proportional to velocity, but since it is proportional to time, I am not sure what to do to get rid of the variable t.

Let me know if anyone has any suggestions.
 
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What's position as a function of time (for this motion)?
 
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In general, knowing the acceleration function will only give you changes in velocity.
To know the velocity function, you will also need to know the initial velocity - or the velocity at some point in time.
 
We are not given the position as a function of time. We are only given acceleration and are to assume that v(0)=v0 (a constant) and x(0)=x0 (a different constant).
 
turtles123 said:
We are not given the position as a function of time.
If you are not given position as a function of time, you could always calculate it!
 
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Yes, I did solve for position as a function of time, but then to make velocity of a function of position is very messy. When I plug in time= from the velocity equation into the position equation I get a very funky and long result, that I can't put in terms of x=
 
Alternatively if I try to solve for t from the x(t) equation it is very hard to do so because I have #t^3+#t.
 
turtles123 said:
Alternatively if I try to solve for t from the x(t) equation it is very hard to do so because I have #t^3+#t.
The general problem does look a bit gnarly. Why are you doing this?
 
turtles123 said:
Alternatively if I try to solve for t from the x(t) equation it is very hard to do so because I have #t^3+#t.
I thought you had a=ct and v0 = v0 ... c and V0 are constants.

If this is the case, you do not need to compute position as a function of time. If you did, you would need to include a p0.

dv(t)/dt = a(t)
So integrate.
 
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But then I get velocity in terms of time and I need velocity in terms of position, x.
 
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turtles123 said:
But then I get velocity in terms of time and I need velocity in terms of position, x.
So you will need a p0. So you solve p=f(t) - which will be a quadratic. The you solve for the quadratic.
 
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1. You know that ##v=v_0+\frac{1}{2}ct^2.##
2. Solve this equation for ##t## in terms of ##v## and the constants.
3. Observe that $$a=\frac{dv}{dt}=\frac{dv}{dx}\frac{dx}{dt}=v\frac{dv}{dx}~\Rightarrow~\frac{dv}{dx}=\frac{a}{v}=\frac{ct}{v}.$$4. 4. Replace ##t## with what you got in step 2.
5. Separate variables and integrate.
 
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