Non ideal parallel plates (really quick question)

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The discussion revolves around the challenges of solving Laplace's equation in the context of a parallel plates capacitor, particularly when considering fringing effects. Participants explore the applicability of numerical techniques versus closed form solutions in this scenario.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the existence of closed form solutions for fringing effects and the implications of manufacturing imperfections on analytical solutions. There is mention of conformal mapping as a potential technique, though its applicability is questioned.

Discussion Status

The conversation reflects a mix of exploration and clarification regarding the use of numerical methods versus analytical approaches. Some participants express uncertainty about the validity of certain techniques and share insights on the limitations of existing resources.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the context of an introductory electromagnetic engineering class, which may influence the level of detail and accuracy expected in their discussions.

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I'm writing a report about using numerical techniques to solve a simple parallel plates capacitor problem.

Would it be proper to say that there is no closed form solution to Lapalces equation when dealing with fringing effects? Isn't this the reason why we use numerical techniques to solve the problem?
 
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well in an idealized model, you can get closed form solutions for some fringing effects. However, i think it would be fair to say that you can't analytically solve for the fringing effects of any physical capacitor since there would be imperfections in the manufacturing process that would make it impractical, if not impossible, to get an exact solution for the potential even considering only classical electrodynamics.
 
FrogPad said:
I'm writing a report about using numerical techniques to solve a simple parallel plates capacitor problem.

Would it be proper to say that there is no closed form solution to Lapalces equation when dealing with fringing effects? Isn't this the reason why we use numerical techniques to solve the problem?
Conformal mapping can be used. I think that Panofsky and Phillips does it.
 
Meir Achuz said:
Conformal mapping can be used. I think that Panofsky and Phillips does it.


So I really shouldn't say that there is no closed form solution. This is just for an introductory emag engineering class, so I don't want to say things I don't know ;)
 
Sorry, I was too optomistic. I looked at P & P, and they do not do the fringing case. They just treat simpler cases. I donn't think conformal mapping can do the parallel plate frilnging. Get on with your numerical work.
 
Meir Achuz said:
Get on with your numerical work.

hehe, ok man.

Well I got that part done at least. Thanks for checking around.
 

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