NPN BJT in reverse active mode - base current direction

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the behavior of base current direction in an NPN BJT operating in reverse active mode. Participants explore the implications of current flow in this mode compared to forward active and saturation modes, focusing on the directionality of currents and the effects of biasing.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the direction of base current in reverse active mode, suggesting it flows from the base into the collector, while still entering the base.
  • Another participant proposes that base current could flow in the opposite direction, referencing a simulation example from Multisim.
  • A different participant asserts that in reverse active mode, the emitter/base junction is not forward biased, and thus current cannot flow out of the base unless the junction is in breakdown, which could damage the transistor.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about relying on simulation software for accurate behavior representation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the behavior of base current in reverse active mode, with competing views on whether it can flow in the opposite direction and the implications of simulation results.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential for breakdown in reverse-biased junctions, which may not be accurately represented in simulation software, highlighting limitations in practical applications versus theoretical models.

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Hi!
I was wondering what happens with Base current direction if NPN BJT works in reverse active mode? In forward active and in saturation mode currents are like this:

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Collector and emitter currents in reverse active mode would be in opposite direction:

inv.png
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In this case base current would be flowing from the base into the collector. So it would still be flowing into the base, but instead of flowing out of the emitter it would be flowing out of the collector.
 
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Is it possible for base current to flow in opposite direction, like this:

inv.png


?

Here is example from Multisim:

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etf said:
Is it possible for base current to flow in opposite direction, like this:

No. Forward active mode means the emitter/base junction is forward biased. Reverse active mode means the collector base junction is forward biased. In both cases current is flowing into the base. In order for current to flow out of the base, it has to be flowing through a reverse-biased junction. This means the junction is in breakdown, which typically destroys a bipolar transistor. Multisim may show it happening, but if you try it on a real device you will fry it.
 
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One definitelly shouldn't trust to simulation software 100% :)
You helped me a lot, thanks!
 

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