Numerical solution of the Poisson equation

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The discussion focuses on solving the Poisson equation in the context of proton radiation affecting a material, specifically addressing the equation Δφ(x) = - ρ(x) / (εr ε0) with boundary conditions φ(±∞) = 0. The user encounters singularities when calculating the electric field inside the source, leading to questions about the validity of their approach using Green's function. The conversation highlights that while small δx indents can minimize errors, the user remains uncertain about constructing a difference scheme for the Poisson equation under these conditions. The Green's function solution is confirmed to be appropriate as it is piecewise linear in one-dimensional systems.

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How to solve the Poisson equation inside an electrostatic field source?
In my case, there is proton radiation acting on the material. Consequently, the protons get stuck in the sample and create an electrostatic field. I would like to solve the Poisson equation inside the sample. I assume that the medium is infinite and homogeneous, that is, the potential at infinity is zero (one-dimensional case):
Δφ(x) = - ρ(x) / εr ε0
φ(±∞) = 0.​
The solution of such an equation is well known. That is (integration by range X' containing the source)
φ(x) = 1 / (4πεr ε0) ∫ dx' ρ(x') / |x-x'|.​
But then if I try to calculate the field inside the source itself, then singularities will occur due to the denominator in the integrand. I made small δx indents when calculating such an integral, i. e. sources with coordinates ζ: |ζ-x'| < δx were not taken into account when calculating an integral. This is hardly the right approach. Could you tell me how to solve such a problem correctly?
 
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It is a perfectly valid approach if you insist on computing the result through the Green’s function. The contribution ignored goes as
$$\int_{0}^{\delta x} \frac{r^2 dr}r \propto \delta x^2$$
so for small ##\delta x## this should give negligible errors.
 
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Orodruin said:
It is a perfectly valid approach if you insist on computing the result through the Green's function. The contribution ignored goes as
$$\int_{0}^{\delta x} \frac{r^2 dr}r \propto \delta x^2$$
so for small ##\delta x## this should give negligible errors.
Thank you for your response!

Suppose that ##\rho(x')\approx const## in ##|x' - x| < \delta x.## Redefine the variable ##x' - x = \xi.## Wouldn't the error in a one-dimensional Cartesian system then be the same as below:
$$\delta\varphi \propto \int_{-\delta x}^{\delta x} \frac{d\xi}{|\xi|} = 2 \int_{0}^{\delta x} \frac{d\xi}{\xi}?$$
So the error tends to infinity?

In fact, I chose the solution via the green's function because I do not know how to construct a difference scheme for the Poisson equation with such boundary conditions.
 
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ivantozavr said:
Thank you for your response!

Suppose that ##\rho(x')\approx const## in ##|x' - x| < \delta x.## Redefine the variable ##x' - x = \xi.## Wouldn't the error in a one-dimensional Cartesian system then be the same as below:
$$\delta\varphi \propto \int_{-\delta x}^{\delta x} \frac{d\xi}{|\xi|} = 2 \int_{0}^{\delta x} \frac{d\xi}{\xi}?$$
So the error tends to infinity?

In fact, I chose the solution via the green's function because I do not know how to construct a difference scheme for the Poisson equation with such boundary conditions.
In a one-dimensional system the Green’s function is not divergent. It is a piecewise linear function.
 

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