Obama Wins in Iowa: A Historic Day for America

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Well, not that we know of!In summary, Obama wins the Iowa caucus. He has a good chance of winning the nomination and becoming the next President of the United States.f
  • #71
IMO people like Obama more than they do Clinton when they get to see and hear him but come Feb 5th there are so many states declaring together he will be too thinly spread to get his message across and make the sort of impact he made in Iowa and New Hampshire.

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... and Mary Robinson and Mary McAleese of Ireland.
Just to clarify on this point for those who don't know, the position of president in Ireland is purely symbolic. It carries no real powers but they do get to live in a nice official residence in Dublin's Phoenix Park very close to the American ambassador's residence. :smile:
 
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ps Just to clarify on this point for those who don't know, the position of president in Ireland is purely symbolic. It carries no real powers
It carries a more subtle power, ( like the Queen in the UK) there is no offical power but the value to diplomatic relationships and as an independant third party in peace negotiations is considerable.
Even if she did have full dictator powers - she would only have Eire's full military might to throw at someone anyway, there is probably more power in being a 'defencless' woman!
 
  • #73
Has anyone thought about how the impact of a black president might have on foreign/international affairs?

Has anyone thought about the above with a white female as president?

I brought this up in front of a group of people and most seem to think it can have a negative impact on foreign affairs especially since some countries don't believe in women having any kind of power and sometimes white men don't like black men and so on.

What are your thoughts? Let's be real here and NOT politically correct because we're afraid to hurt someone. (Keep in mind PF rules, but saying you don't want a black president doing foreign affairs DOES NOT imply you're racist. Some colored agreed that they wouldn't want one themselves!)

I think its great. If a country has issue with it, then we can take our money to another country until the beg us to come back and will show their true colors. I don't think the US should waste their time with such ignorant countries by spending its money there; however, most political officials are not that stupid and have already dealt with leaders from countries that have a black or female leader. So its really not a valid point.
 
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Has anyone thought about how the impact of a black president might have on foreign/international affairs?

Has anyone thought about the above with a white female as president?
Why foreign affairs? There are probably as many or more colored foreigners than white ones! Also, most foreign countries have had one or more female head of state/government. They think of the US as being socially primitive for thinking of women as less capable leaders.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elected_or_appointed_female_heads_of_state
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Female_heads_of_government
http://womenshistory.about.com/od/rulers20th/a/women_heads.htm
 

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