On infinite products; notational questions

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The discussion centers on understanding the notation of "Big O" in the context of infinite products and convergence in special functions. "O" represents the order of growth, indicating that certain terms are at most of a specific growth rate, such as -3 in this case. The formal definition states that f(n) = O(g(n)) means the growth rate of f(n) does not exceed a constant times that of g(n). Examples illustrate how to apply this concept, showing that if f(n) is bounded by a multiple of g(n) for sufficiently large n, it qualifies as O(g(n)). The conversation also touches on the desire to learn LaTeX for better mathematical expression.
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I'm not certain this is the right forum, so let me know if its not, but I was wondering:

I'm reading a book on special functions and there are infinite products involved. In showing they converge, a capital O crops up and is not defined. Can anyone help me? I don't know how to paste in math formulas using latex (something I would like to learn if anyone can help me with that), otherwise I would. As is I have posted a picture I did with MathType.

What is the O mean? Perhaps that answer will be enough for me to answer the next on my own, but in case not: how do they arive at the second line's equality?

Thanks for any help you can offer.
 

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O in this context means Order. Since it's a "Big O" (as opposed to "little o"), it represents that the cropped terms are at most in the order of -3 (i.e. somewhat small). Formally, f(n) = O(g(n)) means that "the rate of growth of f(n) is no more than a constant times the rate of growth of g(n)." See http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/54574.html. In your case, n = -3.
 
Enuma has as such detailed out what big-Oh denotes.

To top it off with a small example,
consider this polynomial,
f(n) = 1+n+n^2+n^3+n^4 (for all n>=1)

Now if i can find two constants n_0 and c, such that
f(n) <= c*g(n) for all n>=n_0
then we say that
f(n) = O(g(n))
(**This is what Enuma states as, "the rate of growth of f(n) is no more than a constant times the rate of growth of g(n)." **)

Consider g(n) = n^4,
and now consider the constants n_0 = 1 and c = 5, you will notice that,
f(n) <= 5*g(n) for all n>=1 (Try to prove this if you wish)
hence f(n) = O(g(n))
or (1+n+n^2+n^3+n^4) = O(n^4)

Now moving a bit further, consider this polynomial,
f(n) = n^5 + (1+n+n^2+n^3+n^4) (for all n>=1)
I can always replace the term in bracket with,
f(n) = n^5 + O(n^4)

Such a replacement is done when we are only concerned with the growth rate of the term and not the actual term itself.

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