Operator and Commutor Question

  • Context: Graduate 
  • Thread starter Thread starter Domnu
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Operator
Join the discussion
Registration is free. Ask a follow-up in this thread, or start your own.
2 replies · 2K views
Domnu
Messages
176
Reaction score
0
In this site: http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/qm/lectures/node23.html , how does one go from steps 141, 142 to 143? Shouldn't the result in 143 be [tex]A_{new} = e^{i \gamma} A_{old} e^{i \gamma}[/tex] ? Also, how does step 144 work (the entire thing from left to right?)

For step 144, here's how I see it (assuming step 143 is correct):

[tex]e^{-i \gamma} \frac{d}{dx} e^{i \gamma} = i e^{-i \gamma} \frac{d \gamma}{dx} e^{i \gamma} = i e^{-i \gamma} e^{i \gamma} \frac{d \gamma}{dx} = i \frac{d \gamma}{dx}[/tex]

in other words, I don't see how the extra [tex]d/dx[/tex] term popped up. Also, is my above work correct? I effectively stated that [tex]d\gamma/dx[/tex] and [tex]e^{i \gamma}[/tex] commuted as operators since they're both functions of [tex]x[/tex].
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Domnu said:
In this site: http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/qm/lectures/node23.html , how does one go from steps 141, 142 to 143? Shouldn't the result in 143 be [tex]A_{new} = e^{i \gamma} A_{old} e^{i \gamma}[/tex] ?

You want [tex]\langle_{new}A_{new}\rangle_{new}[/tex] to be the same as [tex]\langle_{old}A_{old}\rangle_{old}[/tex].
By putting in the old bras and kets for the new ones, you get:
[tex]\langle_{old} e^{i \gamma}A_{new} e^{- i \gamma}\rangle_{old}[/tex].
In order to compensate these additional terms, you have to replace [tex]A_{new}[/tex] by [tex]e^{-i \gamma}A_{old} e^{i \gamma}[/tex] as stated in your reference.

Domnu said:
Also, how does step 144 work (the entire thing from left to right?)

For step 144, here's how I see it (assuming step 143 is correct):

[tex]e^{-i \gamma} \frac{d}{dx} e^{i \gamma} = i e^{-i \gamma} \frac{d \gamma}{dx} e^{i \gamma} = i e^{-i \gamma} e^{i \gamma} \frac{d \gamma}{dx} = i \frac{d \gamma}{dx}[/tex]

in other words, I don't see how the extra [tex]d/dx[/tex] term popped up. Also, is my above work correct? I effectively stated that [tex]d\gamma/dx[/tex] and [tex]e^{i \gamma}[/tex] commuted as operators since they're both functions of [tex]x[/tex].

Remember, that you are transforming an operator. Operators usually work on some kind of function. Just imagine, that it works on some function f(x) and it will get much clearer. Then:

[tex]e^{-i \gamma} \frac{d}{dx} e^{i \gamma} f(x) = i e^{-i \gamma} \frac{d \gamma}{dx} e^{i \gamma} f(x) + \frac{d f(x)}{dx}=i \frac{d \gamma}{dx} f(x)+\frac{d f(x)}{dx}[/tex]

So it is more or less the derivative of a product, which you have to keep in mind.