Optimization largest possible volume problem

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves optimizing the volume of a right circular cylinder that is inscribed within a cone defined by its height and base radius. Participants are discussing the mathematical relationships and methods to approach this optimization problem.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are considering how to express the height of the cylinder in terms of its radius and exploring optimization techniques such as substitution or Lagrange multipliers. There is discussion about using similar triangles to derive relationships between the dimensions of the cylinder and the cone.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing ideas about geometric interpretations and potential methods for optimization. Some guidance has been offered regarding visualizing the problem and using trigonometric relationships, but no consensus or complete solutions have emerged yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem is part of a calculus course, and there may be constraints related to the methods allowed for solving optimization problems in this context.

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Homework Statement


A right circular cylinder is inscribed in a cone with height h and base radius r. Find the largest possible volume of such a cylinder.

Volume of a cylinder = (pi)(r^2)h
Volume of a cone = (1/3)(pi)(r^2)h


Homework Equations


Volume of a cylinder = (pi)(r^2)h
Volume of a cone = (1/3)(pi)(r^2)h



The Attempt at a Solution


Technically this is my roommate's problem, he is in Calc1. He has been having some problems with this one, and I'm in Differential Equations, and I can't remember how to really do this one. I know you want to find the derivative of the cylinder, and find when it is equal to zero, but I am stumped on how to approach the problem
 
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solve for the height of the cylinder in terms of its radius then look at optimisation through substitution or lagrange multipliers
 
I know that, but how? Would you use similar triangles or something like that?
 
you could do that...

draw a vertical slice of the cone thorough its centre. The cone appears as an isoceles triangle, whilst the cylinder is a rectangle inscribed in the triangle. Use some trig to derive the relation between cylinder height & base
 

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