Transformer connected in parallel question

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The discussion revolves around a homework problem involving two transformers connected in parallel, focusing on calculating the percentage overload on one transformer when the other supplies its full load. The conversation includes attempts to clarify the problem, share methodologies, and seek assistance with calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests assuming a turns ratio of 1:1 and using a voltage of 1000 V to simplify the problem to a parallel network of impedances.
  • Another participant requests the input and output impedances of both transformers to proceed with the calculations.
  • A participant calculates the full load currents for both transformers based on the assumed voltage and their ratings, noting the power factor of 0.45 lag.
  • One participant emphasizes that the voltage drops across the impedances must be equal since the transformers are supplying a common load voltage.
  • A later reply mentions successfully working out the loads on the transformers and submitting an answer that was marked correct, indicating some resolution to their confusion about the question.
  • Another participant expresses difficulty in understanding how to determine the loads without the total kVA or wattage, questioning whether it involves simply adding the kVA ratings of the transformers.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and approaches to the problem, with some finding clarity while others remain confused about specific steps. There is no consensus on the methodology or final calculations, as different participants are at different stages of resolving the problem.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention uncertainties regarding the total kVA or wattage needed for calculations, and there are unresolved questions about the methodology for determining loads on the transformers.

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Homework Statement


The question is as per my attachment

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The Attempt at a Solution



I found the following help of the internet but do not know where to start any assistance would be appreciated:
you don't need to be concerned about matched turns ratio. You can assume that the turns ratio is 1:1 and that the transformers are single-phase or that you have per-phase, wye data. Since the answer is to be given as a percentage, you can assume a convenient voltage like 1000 V. That reduces the problem to a relatively simple network of (0.09 + j0.18) in parallel with (0.09 + j0.23) and that parallel combination in series with (R + jX). With the assumed voltage, the power factor of the current in one branch, and the kva of the load supplied by that branch.
 

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Can't open your file. (I have office 2003).
Convert to pdf?
 
For some reason i can't upload the attachment anyways the question is as follows:

Transformer A is rated at 300 kVA with an impedance of (0.09+j0.18)Ω

Transformer B is rated at 200 kVA with an impedance of (0.09+j0.23)Ω

if these transformers are connected in parallel to supply a common load, determine the percentage overload on B when A supplies its full load at p.f. 0.45 lag
 

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We need input and output impedances of both transformers.
 
rude man said:
We need input and output impedances of both transformers.

This is the complete question as i have it
 
Looking at this again and i have found

Full load current presuming 1000v and at single phase:
Transformer A = 300000/1000 = 300A
Transformer B = 200000/1000 = 200A

I know that power factor is 0.45 lag so this is cos^-1 0.45 = 63.25 degrees

kVA a = kVA total (Zb/Za+Zb)
kVA b = kVA total (Za/Za +Zb)

I think I have everything to solve but cannot figure out the methodology on this one can anyone assist?
 
With any luck, this may not be as complicated as it might seem. You know the voltage drops across the impedances must be identical, since the transformers are working into a common load voltage.

Focus on just magnitudes of the drop across the impedances. These must be equal.

Are you provided with the correct answer, so we can check?
 
NascentOxygen said:
With any luck, this may not be as complicated as it might seem. You know the voltage drops across the impedances must be identical, since the transformers are working into a common load voltage.

Focus on just magnitudes of the drop across the impedances. These must be equal.

Are you provided with the correct answer, so we can check?

Thanks for your help.

I worked out the loads on the two Transformers connected in parallel and then worked out the difference in percentage overload and submitted my answer and this came back correct.

I think it was just the question that was puzzling me I was not sure what it was asking. :)
 
Hi eddievic I'm stuck on the same question have been for days, how did you work out the loads without the total KVA or total wattage or is it just as simple as adding the 2 KVA's of the transformers together
 

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