Optimizing Distance: Finding the Minimum Value and Coordinates on a Line

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The discussion revolves around finding the minimum distance between a point Q and a line defined by the equation y=3x-7. The original poster presents a mathematical expression for the squared distance PQ² and seeks to determine the value of a that minimizes this expression, as well as the coordinates of the foot of the perpendicular from Q to the line.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the formulation of the distance PQ² and question the correctness of the coordinates for points P and Q. There is also inquiry into whether Q lies on the line and the need for the tangent equation at Q for further calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the relationship between the points and the line, particularly regarding the orthogonal projection of Q onto the line. The value of a that minimizes the distance has been suggested, and there is acknowledgment of the coordinates for point N. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of all interpretations or calculations presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating through the implications of the mathematical expressions and the geometric relationships involved, with some uncertainty about the definitions and setups of the problem. The discussion reflects a mix of attempts to clarify assumptions and explore the mathematical reasoning behind the problem.

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A point P whose x-coordinates is a is taken on the line y=3x-7. If Q is the point(4,1)
show that PQ2 = 10a2-56a+80. Find the value of a which will
make the expression a minimum. Hence show that the coordinates of N, the foot of the perpendicular from Q to the line are (24/5 , 1 2/5). Find the equation of QN.

I'm having trouble with the first part

isn't P {a, (3a-7)} and Q2 ( 16,1)?
 
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lionely said:
A point P whose x-coordinates is a is taken on the line y=3x-7. If Q is the point(4,1)
show that PQ2 = 10a2-56a+80. Find the value of a which will
make the expression a minimum. Hence show that the coordinates of N, the foot of the perpendicular from Q to the line are (24/5 , 1 2/5). Find the equation of QN.

I'm having trouble with the first part

isn't P {a, (3a-7)} and Q2 ( 16,1)?


No. ##PQ^2## is the square of the distance from P to Q; it should have been written as ##(PQ)^2## or maybe as ##\vec{PQ}^2##.
 
Oh okay thanks for the 2nd part that value that makes the expression a minimum is it 2.8? and is Q on the curve? cause to do the last part I think I need the equation of the tangent at Q.
 
lionely said:
Oh okay thanks for the 2nd part that value that makes the expression a minimum is it 2.8? and is Q on the curve? cause to do the last part I think I need the equation of the tangent at Q.

You need to show your work.
 
PQ2 = 10a2 - 56a +80

dy/dx = 20a -56

a= 2.8
 
Q is not on the line, but N is. In fact, it's the orthogonal projection of Q into the line. The value of a you obtained is associated to the minimal distance between the line and the point Q, which is itself associated with the concept of an orthogonal projection. If you plug in 2.8 into (a, 3a - 7), you get precisely the point N, with the coordinates they mention. Having Q and N, finding the equation of the line QN should be straightforward.
 
Oh thank you!
 

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