Finding the Minimum Value of x in Hyperbolic Calculus

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I'm stuck trying to find the value of x when TN is a minimum

here's what I've tried so far:

Let T be the point (a,0) and N be the point (b,0)

line of tangent through P:

## y = sinh(x)(x-a) ##
line of normal through P ## y = \dfrac{-1}{sinh(x)}(x-b) ##

my plan was to rearrange for a and b and find b-a and try differentiate that and set the derivative to be 0 and solve for x:

## a = x - \dfrac{y}{sinh(x)} ##
## b = y(sinh(x)) + x ##
## b - a = y(sinh(x) + \dfrac{1}{sinh(x)}) ##
## \dfrac{d(b-a)}{dx} = \dfrac{dy}{dx} (sinh(x) + \dfrac{1}{sinh(x)}) + y(cosh(x) - coth(x)cosech(x)) = sinh^2(x) + 1 + y(cosh(x) - coth(x)cosech(x)) = 0## but I can't seem to solve that

any ideas on where I went wrong?
 
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hi synkk! :smile:
synkk said:
## a = x - \dfrac{y}{sinh(x)} ##
## b = y(sinh(x)) + x ##
## b - a = y(sinh(x) + \dfrac{1}{sinh(x)}) ##
## \dfrac{d(b-a)}{dx} = \dfrac{dy}{dx} (sinh(x) + \dfrac{1}{sinh(x)}) + y(cosh(x) - coth(x)cosech(x)) = sinh^2(x) + 1 + y(cosh(x) - coth(x)cosech(x)) = 0## but I can't seem to solve that

erm :redface:

y isn't a variable, y is coshx ! :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
hi synkk! :smile:erm :redface:

y isn't a variable, y is coshx ! :wink:

oh thank you, but is my method correct?

following on from this I get ## x = arsinh(\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{2}}) ## is this correct?
 
You could have saved yourself differentiating ##\sinh(x) + \frac{1}{\sinh(x)}## by instead adding the two terms and noting the hyperbolic trig identity -- otherwise, all correct.