Orbital Angular Momentum Origin

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The discussion centers on the quantum mechanical interpretation of angular momentum, specifically how it relates to the choice of origin. It is established that angular momentum (L) in quantum mechanics is typically considered in the rest frame of the atom's center of mass, rendering it independent of position. The conversation also touches on the relationship between angular momentum and electron orbitals, clarifying that specifying an arbitrary axis is unnecessary for problem-solving in this context.

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  • Understanding of classical mechanics, specifically angular momentum (L = r × p)
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  • Knowledge of electron orbitals and their significance in atomic structure
  • Basic grasp of torque and its relation to magnetic dipoles (τ = μ × B)
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We know from classical mechanics that angular momentum L = r \times p depends on your choice of origin. My question is: How does this work quantum mechanically? We know we get certain eigenvalues, but does this apply only in a certain choice of origin? How do we calculate angular momentum at some other point? I had a similar problem concerning torque on a magnetic dipole, \tau = \mu \times B = r \times F. About what point do we measure the moment arm?
Do we just assume our origin is at the "center" of the orbit?

Thanks for the help.
 
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widderjoos said:
We know from classical mechanics that angular momentum L = r \times p depends on your choice of origin. My question is: How does this work quantum mechanically? We know we get certain eigenvalues, but does this apply only in a certain choice of origin? How do we calculate angular momentum at some other point? I had a similar problem concerning torque on a magnetic dipole, \tau = \mu \times B = r \times F. About what point do we measure the moment arm?
Do we just assume our origin is at the "center" of the orbit?

Thanks for the help.

Angular momentum depends on position like in classical mechanics. However, when speaking of L e.g. for an atom, one always refers to the angular momentum of the atom in the rest frame of its center of mass so that L becomes independent of position. In principle it would be more appropriate to talk of a contribution to the spin of the compound particle than of angular momentum.
 
In quantum mechanics, orbital angular momentum usually describes electron orbitals, where orbitals are located in an atom. When we regarding to an atom, I don't think choosing an arbitrary axis, say the tree trunk outside, would mean any thing to solving problems.

Therefore, it has no necessity to specify the axis, since we all know what we are referring to
 
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, but just wanted to make sure since I couldn't find it explicitly stated anywhere. Thanks!
 

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