Orthogonal matrices geometry help

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The discussion revolves around the properties of orthogonal matrices, specifically the set O(n) defined by the condition A^t A = I. Participants clarify that the identity matrix I is indeed an element of O(n) and that proving this is straightforward. The conversation also addresses the group properties of O(n), emphasizing that if A and B are in O(n), then their product AB is also in O(n). Additionally, it is noted that the inverse of an orthogonal matrix A, which is A^t, is also in O(n). The thread concludes with a participant expressing gratitude for the clarification on proving these properties.
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Hello again,
This question confuses me for a reason. I read the questions and they sound to simple and to easy to answer. So maybe its something I am reading wrong and not answering. Help would be greatly apreciated.

first off
Let O(n) = { A | A is an n x n matrix with A^t A = I } be the set of n by n orthogonal matrices. Show that

a) I "is in" O(n)
b) If A, B "is in" O(n), then AB "is in" O(n) and that
c) If A "is in" O(n), then A^-1 "is in" O(n)

now a) just seems so simple i just don't know how to answer somthing like that

and for b) i have
-- if A,B "is in" O(n)

AA^t = I
BB^t = I

if AA^t = I , and BB^t = I then,
AA^t = BB^t

-- show AB "is in" O(n)

AB(AB)^t = I
ABB^tA^t = I
since BB^t = AA^t
AA^tAA^t = I
therefore since AA^t = I then AA^tAA^t = I and
therefore AB = I

now does this last statement change the process of the question

(In other words, this problem asks you to show that using the operation of matrix multiplication, O(n) is a group.)
does this statement change the way i should approach a)b)c)
thanks for you time
regards,
adam
 
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Your proof for part ii) does too much:

(AB)t(AB) = BtAtAB = Bt(AtA)B = BtIB = BtB = I

You should know that in general, if X and Y are square matrices, and XY = I, then YX = I. To prove that A-1 is in O(n), use the fact that A-1 = At and the stuff in the previous sentence. In general, to prove that an n x n matrix X is in O(n) you need to prove that XtX = I.
 
hello AKG,
thanks for the help, well for everything.
There is just one thing, part a). Isnt it completely obvious that I "is in" the set of orthogonal matrices. I just can't wrap my mind around proving somthing so simple.
thanks again
adam
 
Check the last sentence of my previous post for how to prove I is in O(n).
 
oh yes, that's directed to a).. i see now. thanks again
 
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