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Pengwuino said:
So apparently they buried his body already, and at sea.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/05/osama-bin-laden-body-headed-for-burial-at-sea-officials-say.html

This is odd...

yes. it doesn't seem well-thought out.
 
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Pengwuino said:
Apparently officials are saying it's a fake and msnbc is saying it doesn't look right either.

That doesn't look convincing. And Pakistan has some questions to answer, bin Laden holed up in a fortress 62 miles NE of Islamambad!
 


that pic is from "the internet". there is no reason at all to think it is real.
 


Kudos for Barak Obama in a clear attempt to unpolarize.

As we do, we must also reaffirm that the United States is not and never will be at war with Islam. I’ve made clear just as President Bush did shortly after 9/11 that our war is not against Islam. Bin laden was not a Muslim leader. He was a mass murderer of Muslims. Indeed, al Qaeda slaughtered scores of Muslims in many countries including our own.

So his demise should be welcomed by all who believe in peace and human dignity.

Back to the 'We are in this together'-policy instead of the you are either with us or against us wars. Now diplomacy should go into the highest gear, back to cooperation.
 
Pengwuino said:
So apparently they buried his body already, and at sea.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/05/osama-bin-laden-body-headed-for-burial-at-sea-officials-say.html

This is odd...

Proton Soup said:
yes. it doesn't seem well-thought out.

I think it's a wise decision. No body to recover for a shrine or massive public funeral, and assuming it was done properly, no way for somebody to desecrate the body or otherwise provide any propaganda value. Everything done quick, above-board, and with no fuss.
 


I agree; burial at sea is a good option. But I would think that they would want to wait to do that after some 3rd-party confirmation of identity.
 


Pengwuino said:
And now, no more wedding talk! DOUBLE WOOT!

Haha thought I was the only one getting ticked off with this wedding.
 
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lisab said:
:smile: Lacy, you crack me up!

Meh, he doesn't need any more virgins...didn't he already have like 12 wives?

You are Right! Wonder he didn't do himself in... :redface:
 


Greg Bernhardt said:
Al Jazeera reported he was in a Mansion outside Islamabad

Pakistan needs to expalin how this was possible - IMO.
 


Ivan Seeking said:
:smile: No, but the Muslim world will. They will want to see the body; hole in head included.

He had a hole in his head BEFORE he was shot.
 


WhoWee said:
Pakistan needs to expalin how this was possible - IMO.

From what I'm reading on the BBC website, there are are three Pakistani military bases in the area and (or including, can't remember) the top Military School, "the equivalent of West Point, or Sandhurst" (paraphrasing there).
 


The photo definitely looks fake - they even admit this on the web site. I don't think anyone in authority claimed it's real though, did they ?

A couple of oddities though;

- He was killed a day or two ago according to news and posts here ? DNA tests take several days at least though, don't they ?

- The crowd outside the White House .. scaling trees and waving flags .. at 1.30 AM Monday morning ? And all quite young, student types .. odd - like a kind of rent-a-crowd ..

Good that the SOB is dead though (even if they had to thaw the body out).
 


The house is up for sale already.

Located in cozy, quiet neighborhood. Interrupted only occasionally by machine gun fire. Lacking in ameneties, but an up and coming area. Handyman special. One satellite phone available with smoking bullet hole for comms back home. CIA helicoptors offering complimentary air lift service for corpses. Great property to get away from it all. Must See!
 


I called a friend (a local fireman) that drove to NY after the 911 attacks to assist with search and rescue. His wife said he's helping in Alabama right now, but called her and was glad to hear the news. Btw - he also helped in the Gulf after Katrina.

I also received email celebrations from a retired Navy SEAL and a friend involved with drone operations - both are very proud of the outcome.
 
Pengwuino said:
So apparently they buried his body already, and at sea.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/05/osama-bin-laden-body-headed-for-burial-at-sea-officials-say.html

This is odd...

Major response to this to come at the bottom.

Pengwuino said:
Apparently officials are saying it's a fake and msnbc is saying it doesn't look right either.

http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/05/02/6568249-we-think-that-bin-laden-death-photo-is-a-fake

Gawd I hope I don't wake up tomorrow to a bunch of conspiracy theories.

That picture is a fake. U.S. officials aren't going to start circulating his pictures for fear of looking like they're parading around a dead body, because doing THAT will certainly make Osama Bin Laden a martyr, and that is something we want to avoid... at least... as much as we can.

Proton Soup said:
yes. it doesn't seem well-thought out.

Ok, now the burial thing: I'm sure it was, and I agree with the decision. You don't want to parade a body around, like I said above, because that will certainly make a martyr out of him and make us seem like terrible people. We want to bury him as fast as we can (mind you it could take a couple days at sea for the body to be finally laid to rest... the ocean is a large place), and in a place where his body cannot become a shrine. This means somewhere in a large ocean like the atlantic where his body couldn't be found by some poor fisherman off the coast of some African nation.
 
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I read http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42853221/ns/world_news-death_of_bin_laden/" that the order to go in and get OBL was given on Friday by President Obama.

Now think about what he was doing Saturday night - the correspondent's dinner! I thought there was a very nice glow about him that evening :approve:! I'm sure he was being briefed the whole time, it must have been a fantastic evening...that makes me happy for him.
 
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lisab said:
I read http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42853221/ns/world_news-death_of_bin_laden/" that the order to go in and get OBL was given on Friday by President Obama.

Now think about what he was doing Saturday night - the correspondent's dinner! I thought there was a very nice glow about him that evening :approve:! I'm sure he was being briefed the whole time, it must have been a fantastic evening...that makes me happy for him.

No kidding Lisab. He was taking out two wacko's that night. Though one is still alive.
I would watch my back if I were Obama. :bugeye: The one still alive is even more dangerous. And he is werry mad at Obama.
 
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Lacy33 said:
ZI wanted to friend him. He must be feeling pretty bad right now knowing he will not get any wergins.

Oh yeah. And what were you going to do to help him with that? :biggrin:
 


Lacy33 said:
No kidding Lisab. He was taking out two wacko's that night. Though one is still alive.
I would watch my back if I were Obama. :bugeye: The one still alive is even more dangerous. And he is werry mad at Obama.
Given his track record recently, I wouldn't want to be the focus of Obama's attention.
Ryumast3r said:
Ok, now the burial thing: I'm sure it was, and I agree with the decision. You don't want to parade a body around, like I said above, because that will certainly make a martyr out of him and make us seem like terrible people. We want to bury him as fast as we can (mind you it could take a couple days at sea for the body to be finally laid to rest... the ocean is a large place), and in a place where his body cannot become a shrine. This means somewhere in a large ocean like the atlantic where his body couldn't be found by some poor fisherman off the coast of some African nation.
They just need to weigh the body down properly. A depth charge would do nicely. :devil:
 


Borg said:
They just need to weigh the body down properly. A depth charge would do nicely. :devil:

I was thinking sharks.
 


MATLABdude said:
I think it's a wise decision. No body to recover for a shrine or massive public funeral, and assuming it was done properly, no way for somebody to desecrate the body or otherwise provide any propaganda value. Everything done quick, above-board, and with no fuss.
I agree that burial at sea was above-board.
 


Just heard an interesting story on NPR. Apparently, for years OBL has avoided all electronics - no phone, no internet. Nothing that could be bugged or tracked.

But that's what made this compound so interesting to intelligence personnel - no phone and no internet, in a neighborhood where all the other houses had them!

Damned if he did, damned if he didn't. Guess he should have stayed in his cave.
 


Jimmy Snyder said:
I agree that burial at sea was above-board.
*rimshot*
 


WhoWee said:
Pakistan needs to expalin how this was possible - IMO.

I'm pretty sure the CIA has known that the ISI was protecting Bin Laden for years, and are probably responsible for him escaping Afghanistan in the first place.
 


How are the US military going to justify invading any more middle eastern countries now? :O
 


DaveC426913 said:
Oh yeah. And what were you going to do to help him with that? :biggrin:

Oh you can be so twisted :-p dear friend.
Were you thinking I would offer my uish daughter? Of course not.
Sometimes all you can do is just be there for someone.
I use to do that a lot in the community from where I came.
Sit with the dead that is. :frown:
It was considered a great kindness... from the outside that is.
Sitting closed in a room alone for a whole night and or day with many times someone you knew can get a little jumpy.
 


Borg said:
They just need to weigh the body down properly. A depth charge would do nicely. :devil:

Why waste a perfectly good depth charge on him. A side note: this is one of the few threads I have read and contributed to lately where the number of posts almost equals the number of views, that is telling, the reaction to the news of his killing is strong.

Rhody...
 


JesseC said:
How are the US military going to justify invading any more middle eastern countries now? :O

Please, does the US military decide which countries to invade - or does President Obama?:rolleyes:
 


Jimmy Snyder said:
I agree that burial at sea was above-board.

Yo! Are one sharp dude. :biggrin: