Oscillator Schematic 3 to 7 MHz and 217 Mhz

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on designing a simple oscillator capable of operating at frequencies between 3 to 7 MHz and approximately 219 MHz. Participants explore various circuit designs and components suitable for these frequency ranges, including aircore coils and VCO modules.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Gary requests a schematic for a simple oscillator that can drive an aircore coil at specified frequencies.
  • Some participants note that "simple" oscillators may struggle to deliver power and can change frequency or stop oscillating when a load is connected, suggesting the need for a buffer.
  • One participant suggests using a Schmitt trigger for oscillation at 3 to 7 MHz, while cautioning that achieving 200 MHz requires more experience and a more precise design.
  • Links to various oscillator designs and resources are provided, including CMOS hex inverter oscillators and transistor oscillators for the 4 MHz range.
  • Another participant proposes the use of a VCO module, highlighting its sinusoidal output with harmonics.
  • Questions arise regarding the exact frequency of the oscillator (217 MHz vs. 219 MHz) and its intended application.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility and complexity of building oscillators at the specified frequencies. There is no consensus on a single design or approach, and multiple competing ideas are presented.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the need for specific construction techniques and the potential challenges in achieving stable oscillation at higher frequencies. The discussion includes references to various resources and designs, but no definitive solutions are reached.

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Individuals interested in RF circuit design, oscillator construction, and those seeking practical resources for building oscillators at specified frequency ranges may find this discussion beneficial.

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Hello All,

I would like a schematic that would help me to create a simple oscillator that can drive an aircore coil or other components at 3 to 7 MHz and 219 MHz approximately.Any help is appreciated.



Gary
 
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One of the problems with "simple" oscillators is that they can't deliver much power to any circuit, and that they change their frequency or stop oscillating when you connect a load. So you usually need a buffer between the oscillating stage and the load. So we are moving away from "simple".

The simplest arrangement may be where it is feasible to use the aircore coil as the inductance in the resonant circuit of the oscillator itself. You'd need to switch or vary capacitors to change the frequency.

A google search on "RF oscillator" should turn up a surfeit of candidates. For a 200MHz oscillator you may need a different circuit, one less forgiving to construction liberties.
 
At 3 to 7 MHz you can have a Schmitt trigger oscillate. Easy, reliable.

At 200MHz you need experience. If not, you will fail. Your best hope would be a completely freezed design, already at your precise frequency, where the printed circuit is fully drawn - something like a kit.
 
gedfire said:
I would like a schematic that would help me to create a simple oscillator that can drive an aircore coil or other components at 3 to 7 MHz and 219 MHz approximately.Any help is appreciated.
A couple of transistor oscillators w/ handy construction hints & cautions, for the 4 MHz range:
http://www.sm0vpo.com/blocks/osc7m00.htm
http://ece.wpi.edu/courses/ece2011/labs/lab5A09final.pdf[/color]

Many are listed here: http://www.epanorama.net/links/oscillator.html
including a simple CMOS hex inverter oscillator: http://www.ee.washington.edu/circuit_archive/circuits/F_ASCII_Schem.html#ASCIISCHEM_004

Guaranteed hours of fun! :smile: :smile:
 
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NascentOxygen said:
One of the problems with "simple" oscillators is that they can't deliver much power to any circuit, and that they change their frequency or stop oscillating when you connect a load. So you usually need a buffer between the oscillating stage and the load. So we are moving away from "simple".

The simplest arrangement may be where it is feasible to use the aircore coil as the inductance in the resonant circuit of the oscillator itself. You'd need to switch or vary capacitors to change the frequency.

A google search on "RF oscillator" should turn up a surfeit of candidates. For a 200MHz oscillator you may need a different circuit, one less forgiving to construction liberties.

Thanks for your informed response.I appreciate it.


Ged
 
Enthalpy said:
At 3 to 7 MHz you can have a Schmitt trigger oscillate. Easy, reliable.

At 200MHz you need experience. If not, you will fail. Your best hope would be a completely freezed design, already at your precise frequency, where the printed circuit is fully drawn - something like a kit.

Thanks for replying, where could I get such a kit?

Regards,
Gary
 
Within what frequency range could the 217 (or is it 219) MHz oscillator be? What application do you have it mind for this?
 

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