Pair Production Velocity Calculation

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the velocity of a proton and anti-proton pair produced by a photon with a specific wavelength. The context is rooted in particle physics, particularly focusing on energy conservation and relativistic effects during particle creation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of photon energy and rest mass energy, questioning the accuracy of values used. There is an exploration of energy conservation principles, particularly regarding kinetic energy calculations and the implications of using significant figures.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing calculations and questioning the validity of their results. Some suggest that the problem may require a relativistic approach, indicating a productive direction in the inquiry.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential issues with the precision of constants used, such as the mass of the proton and the speed of light, which may affect the calculations. There is also mention of the need for more significant figures in calculations to avoid discrepancies.

ikihi
Messages
81
Reaction score
2

Homework Statement


[/B]
A proton and anti-proton are created by a photon with wavelength λ= 6.607×10−7 nm. What is the magnitude of the velocity of the newly created proton and anti-proton pair? Note, the mass of a proton/anti-proton is mp= 1.673×10-27 kg = 938.3M MeV/c2.

Homework Equations



Ephoton = h ⋅ c / λ
E0 = m0 ⋅ c2
KE = 0.5 ⋅ m ⋅ v2

The Attempt at a Solution



Ephoton= 3.009 x 10-10 J
E0 = 1.506 x 10-10 J

KE=Ephoton - 2 ⋅ E0 / (2)
KE= 3.009 x 10-10 - 2 ⋅ 1.506 x 10-10 J / (2)
KEof either particle= -1.5 x 10-13 J
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
ikihi said:
E0 = 1.506 x 10-10 J
Google calculator shows 938.3 MeV=1.503E-10 Joules.
 
if you convert the energy of the photon to Mev and subtract from it (2*938.3 Mev) it will give a positive number
i guss the problem is the mass of the proton missing a lot of digits and the speed of light as well.
like Bandersnatch said if you use the full digits of the mass and speed of light it will give 1.503*10^-10
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: ikihi
Bandersnatch said:
Google calculator shows 938.3 MeV=1.503E-10 Joules.

I calculated E0 using E0 = m0 ⋅ c2. So is that the same as the given value?
 
patric44 said:
if you convert the energy of the photon to Mev and subtract from it (2*938.3 Mev) it will give a positive number
i guss the problem is the mass of the proton missing a lot of digits and the speed of light as well.
like Bandersnatch said if you use the full digits of the mass and speed of light it will give 1.503*10^-10

You are right. I converted both to MeV and it came out to KE = 0.029!

0.029 MeV ---> 4.646 x10-15 J

I calculate that the speed is 2.36 x 106 m/s.

However after using more sig fig digits the answer goes to 0 m/s. Maybe this is a relativistic problem that needs a different equation?
 
Last edited:
ikihi said:
after using more sig fig digits the answer goes to 0 m/s
That seems rather unlikely. If you cannot find a mistake please post all your working.
 

Similar threads

Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 54 ·
2
Replies
54
Views
11K
Replies
5
Views
2K
Replies
20
Views
5K
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
1K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
4K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K