Pair Production Velocity Calculation

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The discussion revolves around calculating the velocity of a proton and anti-proton pair produced by a photon with a specific wavelength. The photon energy is calculated as 3.009 x 10^-10 J, while the rest energy of the proton is 1.506 x 10^-10 J. Participants note discrepancies in their calculations, particularly regarding significant figures and the conversion of energy units from Joules to MeV. One participant suggests that the problem may involve relativistic effects, indicating the need for a different approach if the calculated speed approaches zero. The conversation emphasizes the importance of precision in calculations and encourages sharing detailed workings to identify errors.
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Homework Statement


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A proton and anti-proton are created by a photon with wavelength λ= 6.607×10−7 nm. What is the magnitude of the velocity of the newly created proton and anti-proton pair? Note, the mass of a proton/anti-proton is mp= 1.673×10-27 kg = 938.3M MeV/c2.

Homework Equations



Ephoton = h ⋅ c / λ
E0 = m0 ⋅ c2
KE = 0.5 ⋅ m ⋅ v2

The Attempt at a Solution



Ephoton= 3.009 x 10-10 J
E0 = 1.506 x 10-10 J

KE=Ephoton - 2 ⋅ E0 / (2)
KE= 3.009 x 10-10 - 2 ⋅ 1.506 x 10-10 J / (2)
KEof either particle= -1.5 x 10-13 J
 
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ikihi said:
E0 = 1.506 x 10-10 J
Google calculator shows 938.3 MeV=1.503E-10 Joules.
 
if you convert the energy of the photon to Mev and subtract from it (2*938.3 Mev) it will give a positive number
i guss the problem is the mass of the proton missing a lot of digits and the speed of light as well.
like Bandersnatch said if you use the full digits of the mass and speed of light it will give 1.503*10^-10
 
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Bandersnatch said:
Google calculator shows 938.3 MeV=1.503E-10 Joules.

I calculated E0 using E0 = m0 ⋅ c2. So is that the same as the given value?
 
patric44 said:
if you convert the energy of the photon to Mev and subtract from it (2*938.3 Mev) it will give a positive number
i guss the problem is the mass of the proton missing a lot of digits and the speed of light as well.
like Bandersnatch said if you use the full digits of the mass and speed of light it will give 1.503*10^-10

You are right. I converted both to MeV and it came out to KE = 0.029!

0.029 MeV ---> 4.646 x10-15 J

I calculate that the speed is 2.36 x 106 m/s.

However after using more sig fig digits the answer goes to 0 m/s. Maybe this is a relativistic problem that needs a different equation?
 
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ikihi said:
after using more sig fig digits the answer goes to 0 m/s
That seems rather unlikely. If you cannot find a mistake please post all your working.
 
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