Can Pair Production Occur if Positron and Electron Have the Same Rest Energy?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of pair production in particle physics, specifically whether it can occur when a positron and an electron have the same rest energy. The original poster attempts to calculate the energy of photons required for pair production and compare it to the combined rest energy of the positron and electron.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculations of photon energy using Planck's equation and the implications of those calculations for pair production. Questions are raised about whether the energy calculated is sufficient for the process to occur, and if the original poster's understanding of the requirements for pair production is correct.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on ensuring that units are included in calculations and have prompted the original poster to clarify their understanding of the energy requirements for pair production. The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem without reaching a consensus.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of a related problem involving Wien's law and the calculation of peak wavelength, which may influence the understanding of the energy of the photons involved in the pair production scenario.

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Homework Statement


If positron and electron have the same rest energy can pair production occur?

Homework Equations


E=hc/λ Plancks equation
E=mc^2

The Attempt at a Solution


so i found the E of the photons using Plancks equation
and found the photon E to be 6.83x10^-14 ( should I double this due to two photons required?)
so
for pair production the energy of the photons has to be at least the energy of mc^2
so i just added the positron and electrons masses and multiplied by c^2
and got 1.64x10^-13
did i do this correctly? so Ephoton < E of Positron and electron so no pair production can occur?
am i missing anything or do something wrong?
 
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You still seem to be leaving out information. Could you please post the entire text of the problem?
 
heres the first part
A. Use wiens law to determine the peak wavelength of blackbody photons where T = 10^9K
so λ= 2.9x10^-3 / 10^9
=> λ = 2.9x10^-12
then
B. use Planck Eq to determine the energy of the photons
E = hc/λ => E = (6.6x10^-25)(3x10^8)/ 2.9x10^-12 => E = 6.83x10^-14

C. The positron and electron where created by pair production (ie. Photon + photon --> Positron + Electron). If Both positron and electron have the same "rest energy" show whether or pair production can occur.
I tried using E=mc^2
I know that the energy of the photns must be atleast the energy of the posi and electron.
so mc^2 is the energy of the electron and positron.
used m as (9.109x10^-31)x2 since the positron and electron have the same mass.
 
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You need to include units on your numbers. You've calculated the individual energies correctiy. You just need to make sure the initial energy exceeds the minimum energy of electron-positron pair.
 
ok il make sure to add units,
just for clarification is the E i calculated in step B the initial ? and if it's not larger they can't be formed right?

thanks for all the help!
 

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