Paramagnetic rod in a uniform magnetic field

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the effects of magnetic fields on a paramagnetic rod, specifically in the context of a sensitive aluminum torsion balance. Participants are exploring the torque experienced by a magnetized or paramagnetic rod in a uniform magnetic field and are seeking relevant formulas and references.

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  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant is looking for a formula to calculate the torque on a paramagnetic rod in a magnetic field, noting that existing resources primarily cover ferromagnetic materials.
  • Another participant requests a more thorough citation for a journal article related to the topic and mentions a reference concerning the effects of foreign objects in magnetic resonance procedures, questioning the units of an equation presented.
  • A participant shares an equation for torque involving demagnetization factors and expresses confusion regarding the assignment of variables, particularly the 'D' terms.
  • One participant finds an article from the American Journal of Physics but struggles to access it, questioning the current relevance of the study on the topic.
  • A later reply clarifies that the 'D' terms in the torque equation refer to demagnetization factors, providing a specific formula for one of these factors in relation to the geometry of the object.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion reflects a lack of consensus on the appropriate formulas and the relevance of certain references. Participants are exploring different aspects of the problem without reaching a definitive agreement on the best approach or solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the proper units for the torque equation and the definitions of the variables involved. There is also mention of the historical context of some references, which may not reflect current research trends.

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Hello Physics Forums. I've read the forum on and off for a while and have always found that the folks here have given such thorough answers that I've had nothing more to contribute! :) But I finally have the need to ask a question.

I work in a physics lab and we are trying to determine the effects of magnetic fields on an aluminum torsion balance. Nominally, the effects are very small because it is paramagnetic, but this is an extremely sensitive device so we believe we need to do all the calculations to make sure we aren't having problems with magnetic fields.

Specifically, when a freely suspended rod (magnetized, ferromagnetic or paramagnetic) is placed in a uniform magnetic field, a torque results that moves the rod in line with the field. I've having the darnedest time finding a formula for this torque for anything other than a magnet. Can anyone help me out with a paramagnetic material - or even suggest a book? I've scoured the 4 or 5 books in the lab that might contain such an equation but haven't found anything.
 
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I have access to that journal - would you provide a more thorough citation so I can find the article?

I also just found an interesting reference. I had mainly been focusing on books that dealt with theory, but I found one on an application that I hadn't considered. Namely, it's dealing with the repercussions of foreign objects in the body when undergoing magnetic resonance procedures! A needle is precisely the sort of thing they would be concerned about. However, the equation they have doesn't have appear to have the proper units at first glance. Unfortunately, the preceding page is missing in google books so I suspect it's the assignment of the 'D' variables (I was using simple distance measures of the axes of the ellipse). Any other thoughts on this equation?

(holy moly, I'm dense - I can't get latex to work out right)

T=[(chi^2*V*B^2)/mu0]*(Da-Dr)*cos(theta)*sin(theta)


The units come out to Nm^2 if you assume the 'D's are lengths. Elsewhere in the text it defines a needle like object as Da<<Dr.
 
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Sorry of the double post...but...

Student1983 said:
I googled real quick and found an article about it in the American Journal of Physics, Volume 19. It sounded worthwhile, but I couldn't find the full article anywhere. It still being studied pretty closely, so I don't know if any books will have anything other than the magnetic formula.

Hope this helps.

Looking into this, volume 19 was published in 1951! Do you have any other reason for believing this is still being studied closely?And I've finally realized that my preview does not properly show latex...arg. Here's the equation:

T=\frac{\chi^2VB^2}{\mu_0}(D_a-D_r)cos(\theta)sin(\theta)
 
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In case anyone has been watching this thread with bated breath, I've discovered the issue.

The D terms are 'demagnetization factors'. For the case of a long skinny object Da<<Dr. And

D_r=\frac{4\pi}{m^2}(ln(2m)-1) where m=length/diameter
 

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