Partial differential wave (d'Alembert) solution check please

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The discussion revolves around the solution of a partial differential equation related to wave motion, specifically using the d'Alembert solution form. Participants are examining the correctness of a proposed solution and its adherence to boundary conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the logic flow of the solution and the necessity of verifying boundary conditions. Questions arise regarding the method to check if the solution meets the required conditions, particularly when substituting specific values.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing examination of the solution's validity, with some participants providing guidance on checking boundary conditions. Multiple interpretations of the solution's correctness are being explored, particularly concerning the signs and terms in the equation.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the depth of discussion. There is a focus on ensuring that the solution aligns with the expected outcome of y(x,0)=sin(x).

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


General wave solution y=f(x+ct)+g(x-ct) [/B]

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Your solution to the first part is essentially right, but the logic flow is backwards. You have shown that if the differential equation has solutions of the given form then the parameter must be ±2. You were asked to show that with a parameter of either of those values a function of the proposed form is a solution to the equation.

For the second part, I'm not sure what is wanted, so cannot comment.

In the last part, did you check that your answer satisfies the boundary conditions?
 
haruspex said:
Your solution to the first part is essentially right, but the logic flow is backwards. You have shown that if the differential equation has solutions of the given form then the parameter must be ±2. You were asked to show that with a parameter of either of those values a function of the proposed form is a solution to the equation.

For the second part, I'm not sure what is wanted, so cannot comment.

In the last part, did you check that your answer satisfies the boundary conditions?
How do I check my answer satisfies the boundary conditions please?
 
CannonSLX said:
How do I check my answer satisfies the boundary conditions please?
Plug in t=0.
 
haruspex said:
Plug in t=0.
So is that substituting t=0 into the final solution I have at the bottom right to achieve what exactly, please?
 
CannonSLX said:
So is that substituting t=0 into the final solution I have at the bottom right to achieve what exactly, please?
To see whether it yields y(x,0)=sin(x).
 
haruspex said:
To see whether it yields y(x,0)=sin(x).
when t=0
The following occurs

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CannonSLX said:
when t=0
The following occurs

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Which gives 0, not the required sin(x). So find your error.
 
haruspex said:
Which gives 0, not the required sin(x). So find your error.
Dont see my error from my workings :sorry:
 
  • #10
CannonSLX said:
Dont see my error from my workings :sorry:
Look at the equation where you introduce the constant B. Check the sign of the sin(x) term.
 
  • #11
haruspex said:
Look at the equation where you introduce the constant B. Check the sign of the sin(x) term.
I see, it should be + sin(x)/2

But I don't see how substituting t=0 will provide the result of y(x,0)=sin(x), as its sin(x)/2 along with an exponential function.
 
  • #12
CannonSLX said:
I see, it should be + sin(x)/2

But I don't see how substituting t=0 will provide the result of y(x,0)=sin(x), as its sin(x)/2 along with an exponential function.
Take a closer look at your post #7. There is some cancellation. As it is there, everything cancels, but with the corrected sign it will give the desired result.
 

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