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Homework Statement


if z=\frac{1}{x^2+y^2-1} . Show that x \frac{\partial z}{\partial x} + y \frac{\partial z}{\partial y} = -2z(1+z)

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The Attempt at a Solution


I am extremely new to partial differentiation, I can get my head around questions where they just give you the function and ask for the partial wrt to any of the variables but have not come across a problem like this and am a little unsure of the notation, does x \frac{\partial z}{\partial x} litterally mean x multipled with the partial wrt x ?

First what I did was to find the partial derivatives the question asks for so done them below.
<br /> \frac{\partial z}{\partial x} = \frac{-2}{x^3+y^2-1} \\<br /> \frac{\partial z}{\partial y} = \frac{-2}{x^2+y^3-1} \\<br />

So if it just means x multiplied by... then wouldn't it just become...
<br /> x \frac{\partial z}{\partial x} = \frac{-2x}{x^3+y^2-1} \\<br /> y \frac{\partial z}{\partial y} = \frac{-2y}{x^2+y^3-1} \\<br />

Or do I need to solve for x and y and substitute that into the above for x and y?
 
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Yes, the notation ##x \frac{\partial z}{\partial x}## means multiply the partial derivative by ##x##. So you have the right idea but you haven't computed ##\partial z/\partial x## or ##\partial z/\partial y## correctly.
 
FaraDazed said:

Homework Statement


if z=\frac{1}{x^2+y^2-1} . Show that x \frac{\partial z}{\partial x} + y \frac{\partial z}{\partial y} = -2z(1+z)

Homework Equations


n/a

The Attempt at a Solution


I am extremely new to partial differentiation, I can get my head around questions where they just give you the function and ask for the partial wrt to any of the variables but have not come across a problem like this and am a little unsure of the notation, does x \frac{\partial z}{\partial x} litterally mean x multipled with the partial wrt x ?
Yes, that's all it means.
FaraDazed said:
First what I did was to find the partial derivatives the question asks for so done them below.
<br /> \frac{\partial z}{\partial x} = \frac{-2}{x^3+y^2-1} \\<br /> \frac{\partial z}{\partial y} = \frac{-2}{x^3+y^3-1} \\<br />
Both of the above are wrong. It's easier to use the chain rule with z written as (x2 + y2 - 1)-1.
FaraDazed said:
So if it just means x multiplied by... then wouldn't it just become...
<br /> x \frac{\partial z}{\partial x} = \frac{-2x}{x^3+y^2-1} \\<br /> y \frac{\partial z}{\partial y} = \frac{-2y}{x^2+y^3-1} \\<br />

Or do I need to solve for x and y and substitute that into the above for x and y?
 
FaraDazed said:

Homework Statement


if z=\frac{1}{x^2+y^2-1} . Show that x \frac{\partial z}{\partial x} + y \frac{\partial z}{\partial y} = -2z(1+z)

Homework Equations


n/a

The Attempt at a Solution


I am extremely new to partial differentiation, I can get my head around questions where they just give you the function and ask for the partial wrt to any of the variables but have not come across a problem like this and am a little unsure of the notation, does x \frac{\partial z}{\partial x} litterally mean x multipled with the partial wrt x ?

First what I did was to find the partial derivatives the question asks for so done them below.
<br /> \frac{\partial z}{\partial x} = \frac{-2}{x^3+y^2-1} \\<br /> \frac{\partial z}{\partial y} = \frac{-2}{x^3+y^3-1} \\<br />

So if it just means x multiplied by... then wouldn't it just become...
<br /> x \frac{\partial z}{\partial x} = \frac{-2x}{x^3+y^2-1} \\<br /> y \frac{\partial z}{\partial y} = \frac{-2y}{x^2+y^3-1} \\<br />

Or do I need to solve for x and y and substitute that into the above for x and y?

The answer to your bolded concern is yes.

Your derivatives look wrong though. Let's find ##\frac{\partial z}{\partial x} = z_x## first.

I suggest you re-write ##z## like so:

$$z = (x^2 + y^2 - 1)^{-1}$$

Now what is ##z_x##? Don't forget the chain rule!
 
Ah right ok thanks, will try again and post in a minute or so
 
Ok so using the chain rule for \frac{\partial z}{\partial x}

if h=x^2+y^2-1 and m=h^{-1}

Then
<br /> h&#039; \cdot m&#039; = 2x \cdot -h^{-2} = -2x(x^2+y^2-1)^{-2}<br />

And for \frac{\partial z}{\partial y}
<br /> -2y(x^2+y^2-1)^{-2}<br />

EDIT: Oh and is z_x a short hand notation for \frac{\partial z}{\partial x} then? As it does get a bit annoying writing them out all the time.
 
FaraDazed said:
Ok so using the chain rule for \frac{\partial z}{\partial x}

if h=x^2+y^2-1 and m=h^{-1}

Then
<br /> h&#039; \cdot m&#039; = 2x \cdot -h^{-2} = -2x(x^2+y^2-1)^{-2}<br />

And for \frac{\partial z}{\partial y}
<br /> -2y(x^2+y^2-1)^{-2}<br />

EDIT: Oh and is z_x a short hand notation for \frac{\partial z}{\partial x} then? As it does get a bit annoying writing them out all the time.

Yes. Your derivatives look okay now too.
 
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