Partial Surface Area of Oblate Spheroid?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the partial surface area of an oblate spheroid, specifically in the context of a horizontal tank with elliptical heads. Participants explore methods for determining the surface area in contact with a liquid at a given height, focusing on numerical integration rather than closed-form solutions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the oblate spheroid using the equation (x² + y²)/a² + z²/c² = 1 and seeks a method to calculate the surface area for specific x-values.
  • Another participant proposes a parametrization of the oblate spheroid using spherical coordinates and outlines the calculation of the surface area through local tangent vectors and an area element derived from these vectors.
  • A later reply suggests that the area can be expressed as an integral involving elliptical functions, indicating that it may be solvable through a specific substitution.
  • One participant expresses difficulty in following the mathematical transformations and seeks clarification on determining the limits of integration based on the liquid level in the tank.
  • Another participant provides a revised expression for the area, noting that it simplifies to half the sphere's surface area when the parameters are equal, but does not clarify the integration limits.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple approaches and transformations for calculating the surface area, but there is no consensus on the limits of integration or the final method to be used. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of the integration process.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the transformations and integration limits, indicating that assumptions about the parameters and their relationships may not be fully established. The discussion includes various mathematical steps that are not definitively resolved.

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Basically I have a horizontal tank with elliptical heads on each end. Given any liquid height, I would like to calculate the surface area which is in contact with the liquid.

The heads can be represented by a general oblate spheroid described by equation (x2 + y2)/a2 + z2/c2 = 1.

I can compute the partial surface area for z=XXX to YYY by taking the surface of revolution about the z-axis (ie for a vertical tank).

However how can I calculate the partial surface area for x=XXX to YYY?

I am not looking for a closed form equation, just something I can numerically integrate.
 
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Well, you could parametrize the oblate spheroid as follows:
[tex]x=a\sin\phi\cos\theta,y=a\sin\phi\sin\theta, z=c\cos\phi, 0\leq\phi\leq\frac{\pi}{2},0\leq\theta\leq{2\pi}[/tex]
Note that these are tweaked spherical coordinates!

Thus, the surface [tex]\vec{S}[/tex] can be represented as:
[tex]\vec{S}(\phi,\theta)=a\sin\phi\cos\theta\vec{i}+a\sin\phi\sin\theta\vec{j}+c\cos\phi\vec{k}[/tex]

Local tangent vectors are then given by the partial derivatives of [tex]\vec{S}[/tex]:
[tex]\vec{T}_{\phi}=\frac{\partial\vec{S}}{\partial\phi}[/tex]
[tex]\vec{T}_{\theta}=\frac{\partial\vec{S}}{\partial\theta}[/tex]

The local, infinitesemal area element is then the area of the parallellogram spanned by the infinitesemal tangent vectors [tex]\vec{T}_{\phi}d\phi,\vec{T}_{\theta}d\theta[/tex]; and that equals [tex]||\vec{T}_{\phi}\times\vec{T}_{\theta}||d\phi{d}\theta[/tex]

We therefore get that the area A of one end can be calculated as:
[tex]A=\int_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{2}}\int_{0}^{2\pi}||\vec{T}_{\phi}\times\vec{T}_{\theta}||d\phi{d}\theta[/tex]

which is some sort of elliptical integral, I think.
EDIT:
At least, it should be something like:
[tex]A=2ac\pi\int_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{2}}\sin\phi\sqrt{1+\frac{a^{2}-c^{2}}{c^{2}}\cos^{2}\phi}{d}\phi[/tex]
 
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Hmm, on further thought, this should be exactly solvable!
Set [tex]u=\epsilon\cos\phi,\epsilon=\sqrt{\frac{a^{2}-c^{2}}{c^{2}}}[/tex]
Thus, we get:
[tex]du=-\epsilon\sin\phi{d\phi}[/tex], or :
[tex]A=-\frac{ac\pi}{\epsilon}\int_{\epsilon}^{0}\sqrt{1+u^{2}}du=\frac{ac\pi}{\epsilon}\int^{\epsilon}_{0}\sqrt{1+u^{2}}du[/tex]
Setting [tex]u=Sinh(v)[/tex], and we readily integrate the expression!
 
Thanks for the reply...however it has been many years since my high school/college days and I'm having a bit of a hard time following the transformation...

If the liquid level in the tank is X, how would I go about determining the limits of integration?
 
hbchao said:
Thanks for the reply...however it has been many years since my high school/college days and I'm having a bit of a hard time following the transformation...

If the liquid level in the tank is X, how would I go about determining the limits of integration?

Well, one half of the oblate spheroid should, if I did this correctly (I forgot a factor of 2 from my next to last post), be:
[tex]A=\pi(ac\frac{Sinh^{-1}\epsilon}{\epsilon}+a^{2}), \epsilon=\sqrt{\frac{a^{2}-c^{2}}{c^{2}}},a\geq{c})[/tex]
Note that this yields half the sphere's surface area when a=c.

I'm sure you can find out the rest of your answer by yourself.
 
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