Particle-photon interaction to create new particle

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The discussion revolves around a particle-photon interaction where a particle with known rest mass energy collides with a photon to create a new particle. The problem involves relativistic kinematics and conservation laws to derive the minimum energy required for this interaction.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of the zero momentum frame to analyze the collision and derive expressions for energy and momentum conservation. There are attempts to manipulate four-momentum equations and invariant mass relations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the notation and the implications of different frames of reference. Others are exploring the transformation of four-vectors and questioning the consistency of their expressions with the problem's requirements. There is an ongoing examination of the steps leading to the desired expression.

Contextual Notes

There are concerns about the notation and the relationship between energies in different frames. Participants are also considering the implications of using the lab frame versus the zero momentum frame for their calculations.

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Homework Statement


A particle with known rest mass energy, m_{p} c^{2} pass through a cloud of monoenergetic photons with energy E_{\gamma}. The particle collides with a photon and a particle A, with mass m_A is created. Show that the minimum energy of the particle required for the interaction is:

\frac{E_{min}}{m_p c^2} = \frac{E_0}{m_p c^2} + \frac{m_p c^2}{4 E_0}

where

E_0 = \frac{(m_{A}^2 - m_{p}^2)c^4}{4 E_{\gamma}}



Homework Equations



The relevant equations are the relativistic kinematic equations:

\textbf{p} = (p_0, \vec{p})

E^2 = p^2c^2 + m^2c^4

plus conservation of the four momentum (implying conservation of energy and momentum).


The Attempt at a Solution



So my first step was to consider the collision in the zero momentum frame since that gives the minimum energy to create the particle A. This also implies that the photon and particle are colinear, otherwise it would not be the zero momentum frame.

In this frame:

E_p + E_{\gamma} = m_Ac^2

considering the four momentum:

p_p + p_{\gamma} = p_A

(E_p + E_{\gamma},0) = (m_Ac^2,0)

The square of the four momentum of invariant, so square both sides:

E_p^2 + E_{\gamma}^2 + 2E_pE_{\gamma} = m_A^2 c^4

(m_p^2c^4 + p_p^2c^2) + p_{\gamma}^2c^2 + 2E_pE_{\gamma}= m_A^2 c^4

m_p^2c^4 + 2p^2c^2 + 2E_pE_{\gamma} = m_A^2 c^4

Third line comes from conservation of momentum.
Rearrange to give:

E_p = \frac{(m_A^2 - m_p^2)c^4}{2E_{\gamma}} - \frac{2p^2c^2}{2E_{\gamma}}

E_p = 2E_0 - E_{\gamma}

I feel that I'm very close with this result but I can't get to the required expression.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
 
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Be careful with the notation. ##E_\gamma## in the rest frame of A does not have to be the same as ##E_\gamma## given in the problem statement.
 
Ok, so here's my reworking of the problem:

In lab frame four-momentum is:

p_p + p_{\gamma}

The square of this is invariant

(p_p + p_{\gamma})\cdot(p_p + p_{\gamma}) = \frac{E_p^2}{c^2} - p_p^2 + \frac{E_{\gamma}^2}{c^2} - p_{\gamma}^2 + \frac{2E_pE_{\gamma}}{c^2} - 2p_p\cdot p_{\gamma}

In the zero momentum frame we have:


(p&#039;_p + p&#039;_{\gamma}) \cdot (p&#039;_p + p&#039;_{\gamma}) =<br /> \frac{(E&#039;)_p^2}{c^2} + \frac{(E&#039;)_{\gamma}^2}{c^2} + \frac{2E&#039;_pE&#039;_{\gamma}}{c^2}

Both of these values also equal m_A^2c^4

Sorry, but I'm not seeing where to go from here. I don't really see how to perform this transformation properly.
 
The left side has 4-vectors, the right side 3-vectors with the same symbol?

Let c=1.
Eγ=pγ=-pp

Therefore,
##m_a^2 = m_p^2+2E_{min}E_\gamma + 2E_\gamma^2##

Hmm, I don't think that leads to the target. Is that the minimal energy in the lab frame, or maybe some other frame?
 

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