Particular Integral - Help equating terms

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The discussion revolves around a second-order differential equation, specifically y'' - y' - 2y = t². The original poster expresses difficulty in determining the numerical values for terms in the particular integral after successfully finding the complementary function.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the process of finding the particular integral, including the differentiation of the assumed form and substitution back into the original equation. There is an exploration of equating coefficients to solve for unknowns A, B, and C.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on how to equate coefficients from the expanded equation to derive the values for A, B, and C. The original poster shows progress in understanding the separation of terms and the implications of the equations formed. However, there is still a sense of needing further clarification on the overall process.

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There is mention of a new problem involving a different inhomogeneous part, f(x) = x + 6, which raises questions about the appropriate form of the particular integral based on the homogeneous solution.

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Homework Statement



Ok, so I have a 2nd order differential equation, I can get the complimentary function no problem, its getting numerical values for terms in the particular integral that I can't do.


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y'' - y' - 2y = t2


The Attempt at a Solution



Complimentiary function:

y(t) = Ae2t + Be-t

All fine and dandy, now particular interal for t2:

ypi(t) = At2 + Bt + C

Now we find the first and second order derivatives:

First: 2At + B

Second: 2A

Now substituting these terms back into original equation:

2A - (2At + B) - 2(At2 + Bt + C) = t2

This is where I'm stuck, I'm looking at my notes for the next bit:

We can find A, B and C by equating terms, so:

t2: -2A -1
t: -2A - 2B = 0
1: 2A - b - 2C = 0

I don't understand that at all, can someone explain that a bit further? :confused:
 
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If you group up the terms, you have: (2A-B-2C)+(-2A-2B)t+(-2A)[tex]t^2[/tex] = [tex]t^2[/tex]. You can also say you have (2A-B-2c)+(-2A-2B)t+(-2A)[tex]t^2[/tex] = 1[tex]t^2[/tex] + 0t + 0.

For that equation to be true, each set of coefficients must be equal, that is -2A = 1, -2A-2B = 0 aka 2A=-2B, and 2A-B-2C = 0. Three equations, three unknowns, you can solve for your particular solution.
 
Cheers Pengwuino, I think I get the general idea, so separate t2 values from t's then everything else, so:

2A - (2At + B) - 2(At2 + Bt + C) = t2

Breaking down brackets:

2A - 2At - B -2At2 - 2Bt - 2C = t2

(-2A)t2 + (-2A -2B)t + (2A - B - 2C) = 1 + 0 + 0

Therefore:

(-2A) = 1
(-2A -2B) = 0
(2A - B - 2C) = 0

So,

A = -1/2
B = 1/2
C = 3/4

God this is sooo much to remember, find roots, use the correct general formula for the roots from memory, remember what form of particular integral to use, calculate 1st and 2nd derivatives, plug back into equation, break down and combine the complimentary function with the particular integral. Think i better get some practice! :bugeye:

E2A: I'v got a list of particular integral formats for different functions. This particular question I'm doing I though I better check, would I be right saying that for f(x) = x + 6 ------> y = Cx + D ?
 
Do you mean you have a new problem where the inhomogeneous part is f(x) = x + 6? If so, yes, that is the particular solution in most cases. Remember, though, if your homogeneous solution has x or a constant as a solution, you need to tweak your attempt.
 

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