News Paul Krugman Explains True Conservatism: Same Old Party

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The discussion centers on Paul Krugman's assertion that President Bush embodies modern conservatism rather than straying from it, contrary to popular belief. Krugman highlights that Bush's fiscal policies, including tax cuts during wartime, mirror those of previous Republican leaders like Ronald Reagan, who also prioritized political effectiveness over fiscal responsibility. He references Irving Kristol's admission of a cavalier attitude towards budget deficits as indicative of a long-standing trend among conservative intellectuals. Critics in the discussion argue that the Republican Party's current embrace of deficit spending contradicts its historical mantra of fiscal responsibility, suggesting that this shift is a tactic to regain political power. The conversation also touches on the perceived hypocrisy within the party regarding government efficiency and spending practices, with comparisons drawn to past Republican administrations. Overall, the dialogue critiques the inconsistency between Republican rhetoric and actions, particularly regarding fiscal policies.
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From the New York Times

October 8, 2007
Same Old Party
By PAUL KRUGMAN

There have been a number of articles recently that portray President Bush as someone who strayed from the path of true conservatism. Republicans, these articles say, need to return to their roots.

Well, I don’t know what true conservatism is, but while doing research for my forthcoming book I spent a lot of time studying the history of the American political movement that calls itself conservatism — and Mr. Bush hasn’t strayed from the path at all. On the contrary, he’s the very model of a modern movement conservative.

For example, people claim to be shocked that Mr. Bush cut taxes while waging an expensive war. But Ronald Reagan also cut taxes while embarking on a huge military buildup.

People claim to be shocked by Mr. Bush’s general fiscal irresponsibility. But conservative intellectuals, by their own account, abandoned fiscal responsibility 30 years ago. Here’s how Irving Kristol, then the editor of The Public Interest, explained his embrace of supply-side economics in the 1970s: He had a “rather cavalier attitude toward the budget deficit and other monetary or fiscal problems” because “the task, as I saw it, was to create a new majority, which evidently would mean a conservative majority, which came to mean, in turn, a Republican majority — so political effectiveness was the priority, not the accounting deficiencies of government.”

People claim to be shocked by the way the Bush administration outsourced key government functions to private contractors yet refused to exert effective oversight over these contractors, a process exemplified by the failed reconstruction of Iraq and the Blackwater affair.

continued - http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/08/opinion/08krugman.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
 
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Bush hasn't strayed from conservative principles because he acts the same as other people who have strayed from conservative principles. That's not much of an argument.
 
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People claim to be shocked by Mr. Bush’s general fiscal irresponsibility. But conservative intellectuals, by their own account, abandoned fiscal responsibility 30 years ago. Here’s how Irving Kristol, then the editor of The Public Interest, explained his embrace of supply-side economics in the 1970s: He had a “rather cavalier attitude toward the budget deficit and other monetary or fiscal problems” because “the task, as I saw it, was to create a new majority, which evidently would mean a conservative majority, which came to mean, in turn, a Republican majority — so political effectiveness was the priority, not the accounting deficiencies of government.”

Up until the current Bush administration all I ever heard from republicans was "fiscal responsibility". It was their mantra. Deficit spending was absolutely abhorred by republicans.

As far as the statement of Irving Kristol and it's interpretation, it appears that the only thing that republicans really care about is that there is a republican majority. That old sack of fish is starting to smell.

This new "deficit spending is great" attitude looks more like a means of covering up for Bush's terrible spending policies in order to try to regain the coveted majority status.
 
edward said:
Up until the current Bush administration all I ever heard from republicans was "fiscal responsibility". It was their mantra. Deficit spending was absolutely abhorred by republicans.

What republicans say and what they do has a way of being completely contradictory, and not by accident.
 
The republicans want to dismantle government by being really really bad at it. The phrase; "your'e doing a great job, Brownie" comes to mind.

Reagan spent like crazy in a peace time military build up while cutting taxes (for the rich) and increasing the national debt like crazy.....the role model for republican conduct today.
 
I'm with jimmy here. The article is littered with strawmen.
 
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