PCB making and design considerations.

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The discussion revolves around the design considerations for integrating a hard disk drive (HDD) with an ATmega2560 microcontroller in the context of building a robot. Participants explore various approaches to expand memory capabilities and address technical challenges related to interfacing and programming.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant is exploring the possibility of connecting an HDD to an ATmega2560 microcontroller using multiple digital I/Os, expressing uncertainty about the feasibility and the necessary programming to manage data transfer.
  • Another participant suggests scavenging an old laptop for its motherboard and HDD as a potentially more efficient solution, citing benefits like smaller footprint and lower power consumption.
  • A third participant provides a link to a resource that may assist in understanding the connection between the microcontroller and HDD.
  • The original poster expresses interest in higher data rate transfer methods and questions the worth of the effort involved, while also considering the use of an old HP Pavilion 6600 for the project.
  • Concerns are raised about programming an Intel chip without an operating system and the potential overhead when accessing the HDD, with a focus on balancing software and hardware solutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus on the best approach to connect an HDD to the microcontroller, with multiple competing views and uncertainties remaining about the technical feasibility and efficiency of various methods.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention limitations related to the specific HDD model, programming challenges, and the need for additional components like an A/D converter, which may affect the overall design and implementation.

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Hi, I'm messing around with some stuff in an attempt to make a robot, and I was wondering if anyone could help me with a couple questions I have toward those ends.

I'm trying to use an ATmega2560 microcontroller http://www.atmel.com/dyn/resources/prod_documents/doc2549.pdf as the CPU of my robot, and I was wondering how exactly I would go about hooking up a hard disc drive to the microcontroller so that I could expand its memory an absurd amount. My best guess at this point is to use multiple digital I/Os from the microcontroller and connect them to possibly the same on the HDD. Then, possibly access the firmware on the HDD(No idea how!(Or maybe it's already written?)), and write a program to control the writing to and reading of the HDD. And possibly do the same on the microcontroller; with the number of I/Os being used representing the amount of data to be transferred each(?) clock pulse. I'm not really sure what HDD I'm going to use yet, so I can't really be more specific on that. I'm aware the external memory of the microcontroller can be expanded to 64KB; I'm looking to expand to 10+GB. I'm getting slowly convinced I'd need to use bank switching to pull this off, which I think negates some of what I just wrote... In conclusion, I'm not really sure on any of what I just said is correct, so any answers/clarifications/corrections/google keywords, would be very much appreciated. Thank you.
 
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Why not just scavenge an old laptop for the motherboard and HDD?
Probably a smaller footprint and less power consumption than what you are contemplating.
 
That site should help, as soon as I figure out if I can substitute a higher data rate transfer method, and also if it's even worth the effort/cost. Thanks!

No idea where I'd get an old laptop(junkyard maybe?). I do, on the other hand, have an old HP Pavillion 6600 that I tore apart that I was thinking of using. It's just that I'd have to attach an A/D converter(for sensors) and figure out how to access any digital I/Os. Which now that I think about it are probably any pin connections not used on the board. I don't suppose you have any idea how to program an intel chip without an OS on it? I'm trying to avoid incurring a large overhead when my robot accesses its HDD, although I'm not sure if the speed increase from software will even come close to the increase I could get from hardware.
I don't really care about power consumption at this point btw. And I have no idea what you mean by smaller footprint(grasping at straws here).
 
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