Pendulum - find maximum angular displacement

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a pendulum described by the equation theta=0.2cos(8t), where theta represents angular displacement in radians and t is time in seconds. The original poster seeks to determine the maximum angular displacement and the rate of change of theta at a specific time.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster expresses confusion regarding the lack of endpoints and initial conditions necessary for finding maximum values. Some participants suggest using calculus to find critical points by taking the derivative of the function.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the problem through calculus, with some guidance provided on finding local extrema. There is acknowledgment of the maximum angular displacement being 0.2 radians, though the discussion reflects uncertainty about the process leading to this conclusion.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes feeling stuck due to perceived insufficient information and the absence of initial conditions, which is a point of contention in the discussion.

Lunadora
Messages
5
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


A 15-centimeter pendulum moves according to the equation:

theta=0.2cos8t

where theta is the angular displacement from the vertical in radians and t is the time in seconds. Determine the maximum angular displacement and the rate of change of theta when t=3 seconds.


Homework Equations


See, here's where I get stuck. It doesn't seem like I'm given enough information to do ANYTHING with this problem. At first I thought I could find the absolute maximum value by solving for theta at the endpoints and critical numbers, but I don't have any endpoints. Any physics equations I could use go out the window as well, because I have no initial displacement or velocity or any such stuff.


The Attempt at a Solution


Insert an hour of frustrated grumbling here, with no results.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Recall from calculus that rate of change is equivalent to the derivative.

The local extrema of a function are located at the critical points. You can a find a critical point by setting the derivative to 0.

You should be good to go now.
 
Riiiiight, I don't need the absolute, I can just find the local. Thank you very much! xD
 
Okay, so I took the derivative and set it equal to zero, and now I have

0=-1.6sin8t

and no theta at all, which is what I am solving for. Also, t would equal 90 (or, since it's in radians, pi over 2), and when you sub it back into the original equation, theta is equal to 0.2 radians, which cannot be the right answer. Any help as to what I'm doing wrong?
 
You're absolutely right, the maximum angular displacement is .2.

Try graphing .2cos(8t) to illustrate the pendulum's behavior.
 
It IS 0.2? Phew, thank you. I graphed it, too, I see it now. Thanks for your help!
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 20 ·
Replies
20
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 32 ·
2
Replies
32
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
7K
Replies
6
Views
5K