Perpetual Motion Machine: Jared Andrew Ashby's Creation

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The discussion centers on Jared Andrew Ashby's concept of a perpetual motion machine, which combines linear and circular motion using a pulley system, a motor, and multiple generators. The proposed design includes a bar connected to a wheel, a chain within a rubber tube, and a series of pulleys to create motion. However, the feasibility of this machine is questioned due to the inherent energy losses in the system, particularly from springs and the energy required to operate generators. The discussion concludes that the concept lacks a fundamental understanding of physics principles, particularly the conservation of energy.

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perpetual? i dono what to call it.
Well just to remind you, a pulley divides the amount of work taken by the number of pulleys in the system. Well let's combine linear and circular motion shall we. Let's put a bar connected on a wheel attached to a motor that it's rotation point is on one edge of the bar, and the side edge of the wheel. the bar must be larger than the radius of the wheel to work, I would go with 2xr, then connect the other end of the bar to another bar held horizontally through a hole in something that has wheels on the top and bottom, so that when the machine wheel spins, the bar pushes the other bar forward and back horizontally.
Well let's take a look, we can now connect a chain inside a rubber tube to the end of that bar and run it through a series of 20 pulleys, or more, who cares. the pulleys closest to the machine need to be on a fixed, but rotational pole, and the other on a rotational bar, underneath a rotating shaft connected to a large gear ( this bar must be the same radius as the wheel to rotation point). The chain will require a spring on it with almost the same spring constant as the force needed to bend the links in the metal chain, but considerably less. this gear will spin much smaller gears really fast, so then we attach 10 generators to this gear, and then there must also be another wheel/bar/pulley get up on the opposite side, running at the same speed as the other, simultaneously, but at opposite points on the wheel, so that one pulls as the other pushes, it would be most appropriate if you had 6+ generators hooked up at equal degrees with each other. and each with the corresponding positioning of pulling when needed.
And there you have it, a very SIMPLE perpetual motion machine..!

Why does it work? let's put this equation out there for one generator: let's say it makes enough electrical force to power 1000 Newtons (theoretically), and it is required 2000 Newtons to keep it in constant motion. Well you would need all 6 generators to run at 100 Newtons each, x20 force, leaving you with 400 surplus Newtons, add more pullies if need be.

© Jared Andrew Ashby 2-24-2007
Any attempt to construct a machine, or sell the idea of this machine must first be approved by the original concept creator, Jared Andrew Ashby.
 
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I read the words "spring" and "Rotation" in your proposed machine concept. Those words indicate losses not accounted for, which you can bet will equal your surplus and then some. If you don't believe me, build it and let us know how you make out.
 
Hard Proof said:
perpetual? i dono what to call it.
Well just to remind you, a pulley divides the amount of work taken by the number of pulleys in the system.
Whoa there - the work done on one side of a pulley system is exactly the same as the work done on the other. On one side there is more force but less distance and they are exactly proportional.

A lever works exactly the same way.

It is tough to tell, but it seems you also may not be aware that it requires energy to spin a generator...
© Jared Andrew Ashby 2-24-2007
Any attempt to construct a machine, or sell the idea of this machine must first be approved by the original concept creator, Jared Andrew Ashby.
Trust me, it won't be a problem.

Based on how far you've taken this, I must conclude that you aren't going to be willing to attempt to learn the high-school level physics required to understand why you are wrong, so there is no point in discussing this further. Thread locked.
 

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