Phase Shift Independent of Frequency: Circuit Solutions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the search for a circuit that can provide a phase shift independent of frequency. Participants explore various circuit solutions and clarify the requirements for such a phase shift, including the desired amount and frequency range.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the existence of a circuit that can achieve a phase shift independent of frequency, expressing concerns about the complexity of digital solutions.
  • Another participant suggests the use of a delay line as a potential solution.
  • Questions are raised regarding the specific purpose of the phase shift and the required amount of phase shift over a defined frequency range.
  • Further clarification is sought on whether the phase shift should be constant in terms of time (micro/nano seconds) or as a percentage of the period.
  • A participant notes that standard audio treble attenuators based on RC circuits produce frequency-dependent phase shifts, which can distort sound quality, and asks how to eliminate this phase shift.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus on a specific solution, and multiple competing views and questions remain regarding the requirements and potential methods for achieving a frequency-independent phase shift.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not specified the assumptions behind their questions or the definitions of terms like "phase shift" and "frequency range," which may affect the discussion.

GlynnHeeswijk
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Hi

Is anyone aware of a circuit that could provide a phase shift independent of frequency?
I have thought of doing it digitally but the number of components needed are ridicules.

Thank you
 
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a delay line?
 
GlynnHeeswijk said:
Hi

Is anyone aware of a circuit that could provide a phase shift independent of frequency?
I have thought of doing it digitally but the number of components needed are ridicules.

Thank you

What's your purpose?

How much phase shift? Over what frequency range?
 
...and do you mean a constant phase shift in terms of number of micro/nano seconds, or a constant phase shift in terms of % of period?
 
A standard audio treble attenuator based on an R C circuit produces a phase shift that is dependent on frequency: 1 radian per neper, or 6.6 degrees per dB. This distorts the sound quality of the audio. How can we eliminate the phase shift?
 

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