Phasor diagrams for RLC circuit and resonant frequency

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The discussion revolves around phasor diagrams for RLC circuits, specifically focusing on the concept of resonant frequency and the relationships between the voltages and currents in series and parallel configurations. Participants explore the implications of resonance on circuit behavior and the interpretation of phasor diagrams.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that at resonant frequency, the reactances of the capacitor and inductor are equal in magnitude but 180 degrees out of phase, leading to the overall impedance being purely resistive.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of specifying that the discussion pertains to a series resonant circuit.
  • It is noted that in a series circuit, the same current flows through all components, with the inductor voltage leading, the capacitor voltage lagging, and the resistor voltage being in phase with the current.
  • One participant describes how the voltages across the inductor and capacitor cancel at resonance, resulting in a minimum voltage across the source, which is determined by the resistance.
  • There is a mention of how the behavior of voltages changes with frequency, with the capacitor voltage being higher at lower frequencies and the inductor voltage being higher at higher frequencies.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of parallel RLC circuits, suggesting a similar analysis method but noting that all components share the same voltage while the currents differ.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the behavior of voltages and currents in series RLC circuits at resonance, but there are differing interpretations regarding the diagrams and the specifics of the analysis, particularly in relation to parallel circuits.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about circuit configurations and the interpretation of phasor diagrams, which may not be fully articulated by all participants. There is also a lack of consensus on the clarity of the diagrams referenced.

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This discussion may be useful for students and practitioners interested in understanding RLC circuits, phasor analysis, and the concept of resonance in electrical engineering.

lys04
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Can someone check if my understanding is correct?

At resonant frequency, my understanding is that the magnitude of the reactances of the capacitor and the inductor have the same magnitude but they are 180 degrees out of phase, making the overall impedance of the circuit only consisting of the resistance from the resistor. In phasor diagrams, this means that the driving voltage and the current should be in phase. But the voltage across the capacitor and the inductor should still be 90 degrees apart from each other? Like separated by 90 degrees on the phase diagram (in general if the driving voltage has a phase).

Also in this diagram i'm not quite understanding the left and right images, can someone explain?
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Assuming that you are speaking about a series resonant circuit (why didn`t you mention this?), Your diagrams look pretty good.
 
The diagrams look correct to me. The easy way to understand it for a series circuit is to notice that the same current flows in all three components, say 1 amp. Then the voltage across each component is just ZxI volts.
Relative to the current, inductor voltage leads, capacitor voltage lags and resistor voltage is in phase.
At resonance the inductor and capacitor voltages are equal magnitude - centre diagram. Below resonance the capacitor has greater reactance than the inductor, so has a higher voltage (left hand diagram). And conversely for the right hand diagram. The two reactive voltages subtract to give a resultant which is always at 90 degs to the voltage across the resistor.
If you come to study parallel RLC circuits, use the same method, but in this case all components have the same voltage and the currents differ. Assume 1 volt applied and then work out the current in each leg. The current in C will lead the voltage, that in L will lag and that in R wil be in p[hase with the applied voltage.
 
lys04 said:
Also in this diagram i'm not quite understanding the left and right images, can someone explain?
The three diagrams show the voltage phasors for the three components as the frequency changes. At resonance, the volts across the L and C cancel out and the resulting Vs is the least possible magnitude (determined by the R). For a lower frequency, Vc will be higher than VL so there is a resultant which adds (vectorially) to the Vr and the overall resultant is the (leading) black arrow. For a higher frequency, the VL is higher and the resultant black arrow lags.
The lower the R value, the sharper the frequency response maximum.
 

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