Photoelectric Effect and intensity of light

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The discussion revolves around the photoelectric effect and the relationship between the intensity of light, frequency, and the emission of electrons from a metal surface. Participants explore the implications of changing the frequency of light while keeping its intensity constant, particularly in relation to the current measured in a photoelectric setup.

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why increasing the frequency of light while maintaining constant intensity leads to a decrease in current measured in the circuit.
  • Another participant explains that increasing the frequency increases photon energy, which necessitates a reduction in the number of photons if intensity (power per unit area) remains constant, leading to fewer emitted electrons.
  • A participant seeks clarification on the relationship between intensity, power, frequency, and the number of photons, confirming their understanding of these concepts.
  • Another participant notes that the term "intensity" can have various meanings depending on the field of study, specifying their definition as wattage of incident radiation per unit area.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the relationship between photon energy, frequency, and the number of photons in the context of the photoelectric effect, but there is no explicit consensus on the broader implications of these relationships.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the complexities of how intensity is defined across different fields, nor does it address any potential limitations in the assumptions made regarding the photoelectric effect.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in the photoelectric effect, quantum mechanics, and the interplay between light intensity and frequency in experimental physics.

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OK, so i have a question about the nature of light, in the context of the photoelectric effect.

So when photons are incident on a metal, given that they have a high enough frequency they can cause electrons to be emitted from the metal. Now i know that intensity of light is to do with the amplitude, and energy is to do with the frequency (E=fh).

Apparantly, when the frequency (thus energy) of the incident light is increased, and intensity is kept constant, the current measured in the circuit connected to the photoelectric set up decreases. Why is this?

The only thing i can think of is that by increasing the energy of the photons, if the intensity is kept constant, the number of photons would have to decrease (which explains the lower current), but again, I don't know why this is?

Thanks for any help, the internet is dreadful for finding such answers :)
 
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If the frequency of the light is increased, the photon energy is increased, so if the power per unit area incident on the metal is unchanged then the number of photons incident per second (photon flux) must be proportionally reduced. The quantum nature of the photon in this experiment means a single photon (with sufficient energy) releases a single electron, so fewer incident photons means fewer released electrons.
 
Thanks :) so just to double check that I've understood, youre saying that intensity=power per unit area. And since power=energy per second, the factors affecting power (thus intensity) are both the frequency of the photons and the number of photons, right?
 
Intensity has lots of meanings and can often depend on what field you're studying. When I say it that's what I mean - wattage of incident radiation per unit area. 2nd question: yes, that's it.
 

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