Physics Energy - how fast ball is moving from certain height

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The problem involves a ball rolling down a ramp from a height of 12 cm, with the goal of determining its speed at the bottom. The context is rooted in energy conservation principles, specifically relating gravitational potential energy to kinetic energy.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of energy conservation, questioning the relevance of mass and the equations used. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between potential and kinetic energy, with some participants expressing confusion over the necessary equations and their derivations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring various interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been provided regarding the equations related to energy, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or final answer. Participants are encouraged to consider both translational and rotational kinetic energy due to the nature of the ball's motion.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted lack of information regarding the ramp's angle and length, which may affect the calculations. The original poster indicates this is an introductory question for a lab, suggesting a focus on conceptual understanding rather than detailed calculations.

  • #31
This is v^2. You did not read the previous post?
How do you find v if v^2 is 2.352?
 
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  • #32
Yes so I take the square root of 2.532 to get what v is? Which would be 1.5
 
  • #33
Yes, take the square root.
 
  • #34
Ugh I entered this and it said it was incorrect. Is 1.5 m/s not the right answer?!
 
  • #35
It may be a rounding error.
Or it may be a little more complicated. Depends on the level of your class.

Have you learned about moment of inertia and rotational kinetic energy?
They say that the ball is rolling so you may be supposed to consider the rotation of the ball too.
In this case the kinetic energy will have two terms,
KE=1/2mv^2 + 1/2 I ω^2
where I is the moment of inertia of the ball and ω is the angular speed. For rolling without slipping, ω is v/R where R is the radius of the ball.
Have you seen any of these?
 
  • #36
nasu said:
It may be a rounding error.
Or it may be a little more complicated. Depends on the level of your class.

Have you learned about moment of inertia and rotational kinetic energy?
They say that the ball is rolling so you may be supposed to consider the rotation of the ball too.
In this case the kinetic energy will have two terms,
KE=1/2mv^2 + 1/2 I ω^2
where I is the moment of inertia of the ball and ω is the angular speed. For rolling without slipping, ω is v/R where R is the radius of the ball.
Have you seen any of these?

The question specifically mentions that the ball rolls. That means:

change in gravitational potential energy = (translation kinetic energy)+(rotational kinetic energy)

assuming ball is a solid sphere, you should know the moment of inertia of sphere. and as nasu already mentioned for pure rolling ω= \frac{v}{r}
mgh = \frac{1}{2}mv^2 + \frac{1}{2}Iω^2
mgh = \frac{1}{2}mv^2 + \frac{1}{2}\frac{2mr^2}{5}ω^2
mgh = \frac{1}{2}mv^2 + \frac{1}{2}\frac{2mr^2}{5}(\frac{v}{r})^2

the final equation would come out to be mgh = \frac{7}{10}mv^2
 
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