Physics Major: Should I transfer to UCLA or UCSB?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the decision of transferring to either UCLA or UCSB as a Physics major, with a focus on how each institution may impact future academic opportunities, particularly in pursuing a Ph.D. in theoretical Physics. Participants explore factors such as undergraduate school reputation, research experience, and financial considerations.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the choice of undergraduate institution matters little as long as it is not a poorly regarded college.
  • Others argue that financial considerations, such as tuition and cost of living, should be prioritized when choosing between UCLA and UCSB.
  • There is a concern about the difficulty of gaining admission to prestigious graduate programs like Caltech, with some suggesting that strong undergraduate performance alone may not suffice without research experience.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the necessity of research experience for graduate school admission, stating that excellent universities often accept students without it.
  • A later reply emphasizes the importance of visiting each school and engaging with department members to make a more informed decision.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the importance of undergraduate school reputation versus research experience for graduate school admissions. There are competing views on the necessity of research experience and the implications of attending either UCLA or UCSB.

Contextual Notes

Some claims are based on anecdotal evidence from past applicants, which may not represent the full range of experiences or outcomes in graduate admissions.

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Hello, I am currently a college student planning on transferring this upcoming fall.

I am a Physics major with plans to get a Ph.D in theoretical Physics.

What school, do you think, will better prepare me for my academic path?

Thanks all!
 
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The school in undergrad matters very little actually, as long as you don't go to a real bad college.

Perhaps find out which school will be the cheapest for you...
 
micromass said:
Perhaps find out which school will be the cheapest for you...

Aren't the UC's all part of the same entity? Doesn't that mean that tuition and stuff like that would be the same?
 
daveyinaz said:
Aren't the UC's all part of the same entity? Doesn't that mean that tuition and stuff like that would be the same?

I'm not familiar with it, so you're probably right. But you also have to consider cost of living and other stuff.
 
micromass said:
The school in undergrad matters very little actually, as long as you don't go to a real bad college.

Perhaps find out which school will be the cheapest for you...

So I'm assuming that it is your graduate school that matters? Then is it difficult to get into a good grad program such as Cal Tech from schools like UCLA and UCSB? Say I did well in my undergrad years at one of the two schools, with mostly A's. Would I still have a difficult time getting into Cal Tech?
 
JJHK said:
So I'm assuming that it is your graduate school that matters? Then is it difficult to get into a good grad program such as Cal Tech from schools like UCLA and UCSB? Say I did well in my undergrad years at one of the two schools, with mostly A's. Would I still have a difficult time getting into Cal Tech?

You will always have a difficult time to get into Caltech. You will be competing against top students from all over the US. I don't think there's anybody out there who can say with ease that they'll get into Caltech.

But I don't think that going to UCLA or UCSB will harm your chances. Your undergrad school doesn't really matter that much. Anybody correct me if I'm wrong.
 
JJHK said:
So I'm assuming that it is your graduate school that matters? Then is it difficult to get into a good grad program such as Cal Tech from schools like UCLA and UCSB? Say I did well in my undergrad years at one of the two schools, with mostly A's. Would I still have a difficult time getting into Cal Tech?

If you're transferring now as a sophomore and haven't started doing research/gotten an REU for this next Summer, you've probably missed the Caltech train. Straight A's with no research experience won't get you even in UCLA's grad program.
 
Ouch!
 
PhDorBust said:
Straight A's with no research experience won't get you even in UCLA's grad program.

Are you on the UCLA admissions committee?
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
Are you on the UCLA admissions committee?

From data points of past applicants who have posted their profiles online, this is the case for UCLA and basically any other decent grad program. What are you trying to say?
 
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Research is a good idea, because it gives the student some idea if graduate school would be a good fit, and the letter writers something specific to write about. It is not, however, anything like a requirement. Excellent universities accept students without research experience all the time.
 
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PhDorBust said:
From data points of past applicants who have posted their profiles online, this is the case for UCLA and basically any other decent grad program. What are you trying to say?

I think that making a generalization based on what a few people put on their facebook or myspace page hardly encompasses all the possibilities when it comes to admittance into graduate school, UCLA or otherwise.
 
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I would visit each school and talk to people in the department to make your decision.
 

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