Programs Physics Major: Should I transfer to UCLA or UCSB?

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Choosing an undergraduate institution for a Physics major aiming for a Ph.D. in theoretical Physics involves considering factors beyond just the school's reputation. The consensus is that while the undergraduate school should not be a "real bad college," it matters less than the graduate program. Cost and financial considerations, including tuition and living expenses, are significant factors in the decision-making process. When it comes to gaining admission to prestigious graduate programs like Caltech, competition is intense, and strong academic performance alone may not suffice. Research experience is emphasized as a crucial component of a strong application, with some suggesting that without it, even top grades may not guarantee admission to competitive programs like UCLA. However, there is a counterpoint that excellent universities sometimes accept students without research experience, indicating that admissions criteria can vary. Engaging with faculty and visiting potential schools is recommended to make an informed choice.
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Hello, I am currently a college student planning on transferring this upcoming fall.

I am a Physics major with plans to get a Ph.D in theoretical Physics.

What school, do you think, will better prepare me for my academic path?

Thanks all!
 
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The school in undergrad matters very little actually, as long as you don't go to a real bad college.

Perhaps find out which school will be the cheapest for you...
 
micromass said:
Perhaps find out which school will be the cheapest for you...

Aren't the UC's all part of the same entity? Doesn't that mean that tuition and stuff like that would be the same?
 
daveyinaz said:
Aren't the UC's all part of the same entity? Doesn't that mean that tuition and stuff like that would be the same?

I'm not familiar with it, so you're probably right. But you also have to consider cost of living and other stuff.
 
micromass said:
The school in undergrad matters very little actually, as long as you don't go to a real bad college.

Perhaps find out which school will be the cheapest for you...

So I'm assuming that it is your graduate school that matters? Then is it difficult to get into a good grad program such as Cal Tech from schools like UCLA and UCSB? Say I did well in my undergrad years at one of the two schools, with mostly A's. Would I still have a difficult time getting into Cal Tech?
 
JJHK said:
So I'm assuming that it is your graduate school that matters? Then is it difficult to get into a good grad program such as Cal Tech from schools like UCLA and UCSB? Say I did well in my undergrad years at one of the two schools, with mostly A's. Would I still have a difficult time getting into Cal Tech?

You will always have a difficult time to get into Caltech. You will be competing against top students from all over the US. I don't think there's anybody out there who can say with ease that they'll get into Caltech.

But I don't think that going to UCLA or UCSB will harm your chances. Your undergrad school doesn't really matter that much. Anybody correct me if I'm wrong.
 
JJHK said:
So I'm assuming that it is your graduate school that matters? Then is it difficult to get into a good grad program such as Cal Tech from schools like UCLA and UCSB? Say I did well in my undergrad years at one of the two schools, with mostly A's. Would I still have a difficult time getting into Cal Tech?

If you're transferring now as a sophomore and haven't started doing research/gotten an REU for this next Summer, you've probably missed the Caltech train. Straight A's with no research experience won't get you even in UCLA's grad program.
 
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PhDorBust said:
Straight A's with no research experience won't get you even in UCLA's grad program.

Are you on the UCLA admissions committee?
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
Are you on the UCLA admissions committee?

From data points of past applicants who have posted their profiles online, this is the case for UCLA and basically any other decent grad program. What are you trying to say?
 
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Research is a good idea, because it gives the student some idea if graduate school would be a good fit, and the letter writers something specific to write about. It is not, however, anything like a requirement. Excellent universities accept students without research experience all the time.
 
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PhDorBust said:
From data points of past applicants who have posted their profiles online, this is the case for UCLA and basically any other decent grad program. What are you trying to say?

I think that making a generalization based on what a few people put on their facebook or myspace page hardly encompasses all the possibilities when it comes to admittance into graduate school, UCLA or otherwise.
 
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I would visit each school and talk to people in the department to make your decision.
 

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