Physics & Math: Beyond Calculus for Subatomic Particles

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Calculus is foundational in physics but becomes less effective for modeling subatomic particles and quantum phenomena. Advanced mathematics such as partial differential equations, special functions, matrix methods, linear algebra, Group Theory, Differential Geometry, and Topology are crucial for deeper studies in these areas. New mathematical fields are continuously emerging, with elliptic and modular forms being recent developments. While physicists often utilize a broader range of mathematics, they typically do not work on the cutting edge of mathematical research, except in areas like string theory. The discussion highlights the gap between evolving physics concepts and the current state of mathematics.
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The mathematical aspects of calculus prove useful to physics to some extent. But I heard that once you start studying subatomic particles and quantum, calculus becomes somewhat inefficient at modeling the phenomenon. Just out of curiousity, what other higher level mathematics are being developed beyond the calculus?
 
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I don't think this belongs in the HW section, but further into everything, like in quantum, partial differential equations are important, as are special functions like Bessels, Hermite, Legendre, etc. Matrix methods and linear algebra are also very important. But you will never know how to do any of it if you aren't well founded in calculus, especially vector calculus.
 
I see...seems logical. However, I also heard of some unfamiliar names for different types of mathematics...dont quite remember the names
 
Well, Group Theory becomes important in Particle Physics, and if you want to get deep into Gauge Field Theory, you get into Differential Geometry, Topology, and other kinds of advanced geometry.
 
Interesting...I did hear that several of these new methods fell under those categories. I have one more question...is there a mathematical field currently being worked on that can be considered a branch of its own, similar to how Calculus became a new field in math?
 
Constantly. I myself don't know much about it, but I believe the work with elliptic and modular forms was relatively recent. This would be a better question for the math forum. Generally, in physics you typically don't work on the cutting edge of math, though certain theories, such as string theory, are exceptions. I might argue that physicists know a broader range of math though.
 
I would agree. I actually asked this question in this part of the forum because I'm thinking physicists would be more capable of answering this question than mathematicians: I'm still a student at physics and mathematics so I wouldn't know so much on this matter, but it seems as though some of the newer phenomenon in physics are somewhat leaping ahead of our current mathematics. Am I right or wrong?
 
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