Pivoting (Gaussian elimination)

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves solving a system of linear equations using Gaussian elimination with pivoting. The equations presented include three variables and are structured to explore the application of pivoting in the elimination process.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply a method learned from a lecturer, noting an unusual situation where all the largest elements for pivoting are found in the same row. This raises questions about the validity of the method in this specific case.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the implications of having all maximum elements in one row and discussing the necessity of row swapping as part of the Gaussian elimination process. Some guidance has been offered regarding the standard procedure of row swapping, but there is no explicit consensus on the application of the lecturer's method in this scenario.

Contextual Notes

There is a reference to previous discussions on Gaussian elimination and pivoting, suggesting that foundational knowledge may be relevant to the current problem. The original poster is encouraged to revisit earlier explanations for clarity.

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Homework Statement



x1 + 2x2 = 9 ,
6x1 + 6x2 -8x3 = 1 ,
-3x2 +x3 = 0 [/B]
Here's a question from my book . I'm asked to find the x1 , x2 and x3 by using the gaussian elimination with pivoting .

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Pls refer to this thread for the lecturer's method
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/gaussian-elimination-pivoting.905132/#post-5699372[/B]
By using the lecturer's method ( circle out the max element in each column ) , I found that all the greatest element lies in 6x1+ 6x2 - 8x3 = 1 ...
So , how could all the largest element lies in the same row ?
 
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fonseh said:
So , how could all the largest element lies in the same row ?
Fate, coincidence, exercise composer's whim, anything. It happens. You just play along and swap rows 1 and 2 -- by the book . :wink:
 
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And if we are going to do much more of this, you should learn a bit of ##\LaTeX## instead of making photos. It's fun and pretty easy.
Code:
$$\begin{pmatrix}
1 & 2& 0 & 9 \\
6 & 6 & -8 & 1 \\
0 & -3 & 1 & 0
\end {pmatrix} $$
gives you
$$\begin{pmatrix}
1 & 2& 0 & 9 \\
6 & 6 & -8 & 1 \\
0 & -3 & 1 & 0
\end {pmatrix} $$
 
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So
BvU said:
Fate, coincidence, exercise composer's whim, anything. It happens. You just play along and swap rows 1 and 2 -- by the book . :wink:
So , I can't use the lecturer's method to do this question ?
 
fonseh said:
So

So , I can't use the lecturer's method to do this question ?

In the thread

https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/gaussian-elimination.904589/

I gave you a detailed explanation of Gaussian elimination and pivoting, along with the main reasons that pivoting is performed at all. You should go back and actually READ that explantion.
 
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