Planetary retention of atmospheres

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The discussion revolves around the retention of planetary atmospheres, specifically focusing on the factor of 1/6 related to the atmospheric mean thermal speed of molecules in comparison to the escape speed of a planet. Participants explore the theoretical underpinnings of this factor, its calculation, and implications for different atmospheric species.

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  • One participant recalls a factor of 1/6 in the context of atmospheric retention and seeks clarification on its calculation.
  • Another participant explains that the retention is related to the Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution of particle velocities, noting that particles with speeds exceeding escape velocity can escape the atmosphere.
  • It is suggested that the thermal timescale and the fraction of the distribution above escape speed are critical for understanding atmospheric retention, with heavier particles being retained more easily.
  • A participant expresses interest in references for a detailed analysis but does not have access to specific resources.

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Participants appear to agree on the relevance of the Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution and the importance of thermal speeds in atmospheric retention. However, there is no consensus on the specific calculations or references to support the analysis discussed.

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The discussion does not resolve the specific calculations for the factor of 1/6, and there are mentions of missing notes and references that could provide further clarity.

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To all: By memory I have seen in the literature the factor 1/6 when analytically discussing the retention of a planetary atmosphere (more correctly a particular specie of molecule in the atmosphere).


The relation would go something like this:

Atmospheric mean thermal speed of molecule < 1/6 escape speed of the planet.

How is this factor calculated?

I am familiar with the Maxwell distribution of velocites and its high end tail.
Thanks
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rieman zeta said:
How is this factor calculated?

The basic idea is that the particles, given enough time, will settle into a Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution. This distribution will always have some particles with speeds greater than the escape speed and mean free paths that take them to infinity (effectively). Once these particles are lost, the distribution is no longer Maxwell-Boltzmann (the high-velocity tail is missing), so there won't be anymore escaping. However, the atmosphere will eventually thermalize again and return to a MB distribution, after which time more particles will be lost. This process will repeat throughout the Earth's lifetime and if there are no particles of a particular species left after that time, then you won't have them in the atmosphere.

Basically, you just need to calculate the thermal timescale (relaxation time of the particles) and fraction of the MB distribution with speeds greater than the escape speed. Since heavier particles will thermalize to lower average speeds, it will be easier for atmospheres to retain them. This is why, despite it being the most abundant element in the universe, there is very little hydrogen in our atmosphere.

Note that this analysis neglects input from outside sources, such as volcanoes. This can be very important for some species.
 
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Sir: "Basically, you just need to calculate the thermal timescale (relaxation time of
the particles) and fraction of the MB distribution with speeds greater than the
escape speed. Since heavier particles will thermalize to lower average speeds,
it will be easier for atmospheres to retain them. This is why, despite it being
the most abundant element in the universe, there is very little hydrogen in our
atmosphere."
This puts some teeth into an analysis. thank you.
Do you have a web or other reference showing an actual analysis.
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rieman zeta said:
Do you have a web or other reference showing an actual analysis.

Unfortunately not. I remember doing the calculation in one of my undergrad classes, but I no longer have the notes.
 

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