Please describe elastic hysteresis in plain English

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The discussion centers around the concept of elastic hysteresis, particularly in the context of materials like rubber bands. Participants express difficulty in finding a clear and consistent definition, exploring both the physical processes involved and the implications of energy loss during loading and unloading cycles.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion over the varying definitions of elastic hysteresis found in different sources and seeks a clearer explanation.
  • Another participant attempts to define elastic hysteresis in terms of the strain vs. stress curve for a rubber band, suggesting that the curves for contraction and extension are the same.
  • A subsequent reply corrects this view, stating that elastic hysteresis involves the divergence of loading and unloading curves due to energy loss, indicating that the system's prior history affects its behavior.
  • One participant reflects on the term "elastic," noting that it typically implies no energy loss, expressing uncertainty about its application in this context.
  • A participant shares a video link, suggesting it may help clarify the concept further.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on a single definition of elastic hysteresis, with multiple competing views presented regarding its implications and characteristics.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the ambiguity in definitions and the potential for misinterpretation, particularly regarding the relationship between energy loss and the term "elastic."

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I've tried looking on various websites to find a definition I can understand but every website describes it differently, even the online dictionaries. I have also tried looking in my Y&F University Physics. I just don't <i>understand</i> what elastic hysteresis is because most descriptions don't explain physical processes.

Thank you.
 
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For a rubber band, "elastic hysteresis" means the the strain vs. stress curve is the same on contraction as it was on extension.
 
clem said:
For a rubber band, "elastic hysteresis" means the the strain vs. stress curve is the same on contraction as it was on extension.
Nope, that's the opposite.
Elastic hysteresis is in fact the phenomenon in which the system's prior history, so as to speak, influences the behaviour. For a rubber band, the loading and unloading curves diverge due to hysteresis loss (energy loss in form of heat for example).
http://www.revisionworld.co.uk/files/strain_33.gif
 
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I guess I misinterpreted the question. In usual terms "elastic" means no loss of energy.
I still don't know in which sense it was used here.
 
Watch this, maybe you'll get a feel for it.

http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Physics/8-02Electricity-and-MagnetismSpring2002/VideoAndCaptions/detail/embed22.htm
 
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